Cost of 30K and brake service on a Base 2.0t Macan?
#16
Instructor
Thanks for the feedback.
Separately, it seems very odd to me that the rear brakes wore out before the fronts. The fronts apparently are fine. The car has 27k miles and is very conservatively driven. Has anybody else seen the rears go first?
The brake warning alert went on just a couple days before the 30k service, just expected it to be fronts since they usually wear faster.
Separately, it seems very odd to me that the rear brakes wore out before the fronts. The fronts apparently are fine. The car has 27k miles and is very conservatively driven. Has anybody else seen the rears go first?
The brake warning alert went on just a couple days before the 30k service, just expected it to be fronts since they usually wear faster.
My guess is you are not towing much, if anything with your macan so it is likely causes by the traction control/torque vectoring systems.
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#17
Drifting
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Rear brake pads wear out quicker than they used to, on many vehicles, as most manufacturers use electronic brake force distribution systems which significantly increase the rear brake bias under light to moderate braking, to reduce "brake dive". It is not unusual for the rear brakes to wear out before the front.
OEM rear brake discs, pads, sensors, clips, bolts: $218
Porsche Brake Kit - Zimmermann/ATE 95BBRKT4 | FCP Euro
OEM rear brake discs, pads, sensors, clips, bolts: $218
Porsche Brake Kit - Zimmermann/ATE 95BBRKT4 | FCP Euro
#18
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I actually had the rear brake pads wear out faster than the fronts in 2 of my vehicles. The first was my work truck which tows a 18ft, 10,000 pound trailer. By having a lot of weight on the rear axle causes the rear brakes to wear out a lot faster. The other time this happened was in my Mercedes which caused the rears to wear out faster because of traction control. I am a aggressive driver and like to make the car oversteer anytime there is snow on the roads as well as do quite a bit of drifting in snow covered parking lots which then causes traction control to apply brakes to the rear wheels to try and "straighten out" the car.
My guess is you are not towing much, if anything with your macan so it is likely causes by the traction control/torque vectoring systems.
My guess is you are not towing much, if anything with your macan so it is likely causes by the traction control/torque vectoring systems.
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Last edited by peterp; 03-28-2022 at 10:53 PM.
#19
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I picked up the car without getting it done. Their quote was ridiculous -- they were charging 35% to 60% above Porsche OEM Retail prices. For the rotors, they were charging $369.06 vs $275.42 Porsche Retail Price versus $185 Suncoast/Sunset (which are the same Porsche OEM parts).
For the pads, there is a "Pad Repair Kit" part number that includes the pads and the spring plates, but they were quoting the "pads only" and then 8 pad clips at highly inflated prices ($21.26 each). The pad repair kit (pads & clips) is $142 and they were charging $348 ($178 for pads only, plus $170 for spring clips).
I have a quote from another dealer for around $1200 (vs $1715), so that's a lot closer to what is appropriate for a dealer. I really would rather have the dealer do the service, I just want to be "appropriately gouged" instead of "exorbitantly gouged" .
EDIT: Corrected price discrepancy -- originally thought they were charging for 8 clips when 2 were needed, but now I see they just unbundled as discussed above to make the total of parts cost 2.5 times what they cost when the repair kit factory part is used.
For the pads, there is a "Pad Repair Kit" part number that includes the pads and the spring plates, but they were quoting the "pads only" and then 8 pad clips at highly inflated prices ($21.26 each). The pad repair kit (pads & clips) is $142 and they were charging $348 ($178 for pads only, plus $170 for spring clips).
I have a quote from another dealer for around $1200 (vs $1715), so that's a lot closer to what is appropriate for a dealer. I really would rather have the dealer do the service, I just want to be "appropriately gouged" instead of "exorbitantly gouged" .
EDIT: Corrected price discrepancy -- originally thought they were charging for 8 clips when 2 were needed, but now I see they just unbundled as discussed above to make the total of parts cost 2.5 times what they cost when the repair kit factory part is used.
Last edited by peterp; 03-30-2022 at 12:18 AM.
#20
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The rears also wear out faster due to the automatic braking, hill stop funstions. Heck just backing out of my driveway after putting it in reverse without stepping on the gas pedal it engages!
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#21
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I just noticed that the dealers are charging about $230 an hour. I would have expected something like $150.
#22
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My indy just quoted me $458 for 20k service (oil and filter, brake fluid change and cabin filter) $160 was the oil and filter change. I do the cabin filter myself ($15 from amazon) so im probably in for $368 for oil change and brake fluid change.
#23
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Vehicle manufactures requiring changing the brake fluid at 20K miles is nothing but a cash grab. I have never changed the brake fluid in any of my vehicle and had many of them over 100K miles and never had any problems and the brakes works just as well as the day I bought it. Changing break fluid every 50-60K miles as a precaution if you plan on keeping a car for a long time might not be a bad idea, but any more often that that is just a waste of money.
#24
No kidding, I was angry to see my indy added the cabin air filter to the service for a quick profit of $30. Changed the one they removed myself but lazy with bad back and arthritis so perhaps it was worth getting it done as scheduled, but still, c'mon man!
#25
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Recommended add-ons for the 30K service (which is oil & filter only) on a Base Macan with 27k miles:
#27
Do you understand this is one of the easiest DIYs for any car? Especially these primitive single piston rear brake pads will probably take me 30 minutes total for both and a first timer 3 times as much.
Brake fluid depends on how the car is stored and used. If you are storing the car outdoors 24/7, doing it every 2 years is not a bad idea. This is also something you can do yourself in 1 hour or less with the help of your significant other.
Brake fluid depends on how the car is stored and used. If you are storing the car outdoors 24/7, doing it every 2 years is not a bad idea. This is also something you can do yourself in 1 hour or less with the help of your significant other.
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FWIW: Just had 40K service performed yesterday on my 2018 GTS Macan. This included plugs since we skipped that at 30K miles. Work was done at an Indie garage by a Porsche trained tech. Labor rate: $125/hr. Breakdown as follows:
- oil/filter change (Mobil 1): parts & labor = $243.32
- Brake system flush: parts & labor = $282.45
- PKD service (remove pan, replace gasket & filter, fill with new Porsche approved fluid - fluid cost $29/qt for 7 qts): P&L = $702.82
- New spark plugs - Parts & Labor = $468.50
- Tax, Envir fee, shop supplies & fuel cost for loaner vehicle = $183.53
Total bill was $1,880.62.
Not broken out separately but the above included all factory recommended inspections, including brakes, suspension, coolant system, belts/hoses, lights, etc.
- oil/filter change (Mobil 1): parts & labor = $243.32
- Brake system flush: parts & labor = $282.45
- PKD service (remove pan, replace gasket & filter, fill with new Porsche approved fluid - fluid cost $29/qt for 7 qts): P&L = $702.82
- New spark plugs - Parts & Labor = $468.50
- Tax, Envir fee, shop supplies & fuel cost for loaner vehicle = $183.53
Total bill was $1,880.62.
Not broken out separately but the above included all factory recommended inspections, including brakes, suspension, coolant system, belts/hoses, lights, etc.
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