shack993

My stock PZERO tires are worn out at 21k miles on my GTS. Kinda bummed that 21k miles was the limit. Thinking of going to Pilot Sport 4s which have a treadwear rating of 300 vs. 220. Anyone put Pilot Sports on their Macan? Any other tire suggestions?

Harry Hood

I just installed a set of P4SUV on my 2017 GTS. I have less than 200 miles on them. So far, I am very pleased. I get good road feedback through the steering wheel and they stick nicely to the road although I won't be pushing them until they have a few hundred more miles on them. I chose these tires because I am running a set of PSS on my 997.1 and I am loving that car's ride.

rosen39

With a wear rating of "220", you can't be that surprised. Great handling, but short tire life.

CarGuyNVA

I’d be interested to hear any future updates you may have about this. I too have considered the new P4SUVs for my ‘17 Macan GTS when the time comes. My only slight concern is the rather specific warning Michelin makes regarding the use of this tire in very cold temps, not just handling issues but also potential damage to the tires themselves (although my GTS isn’t a daily driver at all, so I can leave it parked in the garage in those conditions).

Harry Hood

I live in Florida so temperature issues were not a concern for me. I'll periodically report my experience with these tires. The Macan is my DD.

Mark in Baltimore

Since I occasionally use my Macan in winter weather/snow, I'm going with all-seasons when I need new rubber. I'm concerned that cold weather will ruin summer tires, and I definitely don't feel like hassling with two sets of wheels and tires; I don't need one more thing to do and one more thing to store.

I have Michelin Pilot 4S's on my 993 and love them. Didn't know there was a Michelin tire for SUVs.

#1SomeGuy

Here's the note from Tire Rack on the cold weather use:I've never really had an issue, even living in Canada, with making sure the tires stay above -7c...usually we swap to winter tires when the temps start going below +5-10c regularly anyway.

PSEE

Aside from the potential for damage to the rubber compound is the fact that the summer tires tread blocks will stiffen in the cold.
If there's snow on the road, it'll pack into the tire channels - and stay there, making the tires slicks. The tread blocks won't flex
enough to allow the packed in snow to be released.

Slicks are no good in the snow...

mwar99

Actually snow on snow provides traction. Which is why winter tires work to collect snow in the sipes in the tread block. Summer tires in the winter are bad because the rubber is too hard and doesn't provide grip.

shack993

OP here. Thanks.

The Macan GTS is my DD. I also had pilot sports on my 993, where I went from PZeros to PS's. I live in the south, so cold is not an issue. BTW, the GTS is the most capable daily Ive ever had from bmw to mb to 911's. I regularly drive (vs. fly) for work and having the think cruise at a comfortable 100+mph is amazing,

I guess my main view is that I won't give up a shred of wet weather performance or dry road handling by going to PS4's over the PZeros and will hopefully gain a few 1000 miles on treadwear.

But then I guess it doesn't matter. I am two years into the car. Will probably only have the car two years more before I get bored and move onto something else! I do have a bronco on order and also am waiting for a drop in vintage pcar values this fall as the world goes to crap!

smohr33

I went from PZero to PS4S on my 981 GTS, and expect to do the same with my Macan GTS once the Pzeros are done. On the 981, they rode better (softer), had much better cold and wet weather grip, and were much quieter. Dry drip was as good if not better. No downsides. If the SUV tire is the same, the PS4S is easily the better tire.

Draper

The P4 SUV is an XL rated tire (~10 ply) whereas OEM tires are SL (~7 ply).

XL tires aren't necessary on the Macan, and will just result in a noticeably rougher ride.

There is also a nearly 5lb weight penalty for this tire compared to the Contisportcontact 5P.

PSEE

I've read that tire wear ratings are for a manufacturer's tire line - and cannot be used to compare between tire manufacturers.

Pretty useless as a comparison tool... Only seemingly good for comparing tire models within a manufacturer's line of products.


FWIW...

missmy993

Not totally related, but I just replaced the 20" Pirelli Scorpion Verde A/S (N rated) on 2016 Macan S.. After 30K mostly highway miles the tread was at 5/32. Even tho I could have squeezed a few extra miles out of them, the road noise was really bad. For a while I thought I had a bad wheel bearing.
I replaced all 4 with Pirelli Scorpion Zero A/S Plus (not N rated and for which I will spend a stint in Porsche purgatory). After 1K miles all is good, way less road noise.

siberian

Nokian Hakka 9 studded for winter on 19" max rims.

And no I don't leave tires inside for a day before I can drive them by -40... All weather are a compromise and certainly not what you want if you're in regions with large temp swings.

Alas Nokian don't make any tires for the 992... so more research needed...

siberian