Didn't VW/Porshe commit to building a large number of EV vehicles to reduce the fine from "diesel gate" (when the fudged EPA numbers on diesels)? I can't help but wonder if that's part of the problem...

Scott
2025 Macan 4S EV (Voodoo Blue)
2026 GT3T (Lugano Blue) - starts down the line on Black Friday

 

They don't seem to be doing that badly with the Macan. Be interesting to see what the full year numbers are. In the area of the UK I live in, the Macan EV is very popular.

https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2025...025-39972.html



Well, the EU is 100% electric from 2035. The UK is hybrid only from 2030 and complete electric from 2035. Maybe these dates will change, but that's why we've been seeing the decisions from European car companies like Porsche. So, to your point, it currently is 100% mandated by the government.

China is effectively heading electric only as their internal Auto industry is state supported and focussing on fully electric.

The U.S. is not a large enough market for a company like Porsche to exist with ICE only.

I'm not saying what the EU, UK or China is doing is right or wrong. It is the direction of the laws and industry. And I say this as someone who has a 991.1 GT3, a 992.2 GT3 on order, and also a 992.2 GTS. So accepting reality doesn't mean I have to like it!

 

My local dealer is wanting MSRP for a build. Meanwhile, they have a lot full of them collecting dust they cannot sell. U.S. Porsche dealerships at it again.

 

Are they discounting the 2025 Macan Electrics in stock?

 

By the way, while I was confirming my 2026 PTS Macan 4 there was one other customer in the dealership. She ordered a Macan 4 while I was there.

 

Joke is on everyone who thought an EV as a Porsche was a good purchase.

 

who is Jake?

 

No one here thinks its a "good" purchase. Its a depreciating SUV. Would it be my primary car? Absolutely not, but for the wife to shuffle around the city, its perfect.

 

It seems a gas Macan would be cheaper, but I guess she really wants an EV.

 

I was recently in Germany and was talking to a family friend there. She mentioned that the cost of German EVs is prohibitive relative to the competition, especially the competition from China. The market for a Macan EV can be debated, but I happened to see my first Macan EV "on the road" yesterday... it certainly has a nice presence on the road, and so at least from the design point of view I think Porsche did a great job.

 

Any good lease deals on the Macan EV given the low demand?

 

My local dealership did a test drive when the Macan EVs first came out - it was a really cool event with 25 of us, each in a new Macan EV with no salespeople, driving a 3 hour tour led by a sales guy in a GT3 and a sales guy bringing up the rear in a Taycan. It was a ton of fun and they encouraged us to drive it like it was ours - but the one I was in glitched completely multiple times, which scared me off of the new car teething pains. At the end of the event, they offered $15k off for the 24s and $10k off for the 25s inbound.

Crazy thing is no one ever followed up with me after the event, even though they know I have several Porsches and daily a Tesla Model S. Not a single phone call from anyone at the dealership - seems like that event was a waste of their time and money. Can’t say I’ve seen more than one or two driving around Texas.

 

Same thing when I test drove, not a single follow up, which was amazing to me, as have not seen one single Macan EV in NE Ohio on the road. They are definitely not selling in our area. They are way overpriced just because it is an EV. For EV’s to start selling better in US, they need to be on par with their ICE cars and even then will be hard. I love EV’s (have a Model S) and do think the Macan is a nice EV and Cayenne will be even better, but again way too pricey compared to ICE.

 

Now that the EV Federal discount $$ incentive expired, the sales in 1st quarter 2026 will tell the story-

Electric Vehicle Sales and Market Share (US - Q3 2025 Updates) - CarEdge

 

Even if our current administration is stopping efforts to protect our and our future environment, I'll continue to do my part to reduce emissions.