Creaky or Squeaky Clutch Pedal
#1
Creaky or Squeaky Clutch Pedal
12/15 Update: PCNA approved complete clutch kit replacement under warranty to address faulty clutch release bearing
12/24 Update: Car repaired, clutch release lever and related components replaced, 13 hours of labor for transmission-out service
Anyone noticing some squeakiness occurring when the clutch pedal is pressed all the way in? It gets very noticeable when the car is warmed up so it seems like some metal on metal expansion is happening causing the audible squeak. You can really feel some creaking through your foot as you press into or release off of 100% push of the clutch. Car doesn't have to be on for one to hear it and the sound seems to be coming from the front of the car above or in front of the pedals, so it's likely not a premature throwout bearing failure. I tried looking under to see if something could be lubed with some chain oil or lithium grease but couldn't find the troublemaker. Car shifts perfectly fine so I gave up quick. Booked an appointment for next Saturday morning at the dealer to take a look.
My guess is one of the following:
-Clutch boost assist spring or bolt needs a decent glob of grease.
-Bad clutch pedal pivot or rod, needing the whole clutch+brake pedal assembly to be replaced.
-Bad clutch master cylinder, which would likely cause some shifting issues so likely not.
12/24 Update: Car repaired, clutch release lever and related components replaced, 13 hours of labor for transmission-out service
Anyone noticing some squeakiness occurring when the clutch pedal is pressed all the way in? It gets very noticeable when the car is warmed up so it seems like some metal on metal expansion is happening causing the audible squeak. You can really feel some creaking through your foot as you press into or release off of 100% push of the clutch. Car doesn't have to be on for one to hear it and the sound seems to be coming from the front of the car above or in front of the pedals, so it's likely not a premature throwout bearing failure. I tried looking under to see if something could be lubed with some chain oil or lithium grease but couldn't find the troublemaker. Car shifts perfectly fine so I gave up quick. Booked an appointment for next Saturday morning at the dealer to take a look.
My guess is one of the following:
-Clutch boost assist spring or bolt needs a decent glob of grease.
-Bad clutch pedal pivot or rod, needing the whole clutch+brake pedal assembly to be replaced.
-Bad clutch master cylinder, which would likely cause some shifting issues so likely not.
Last edited by soupy; 12-24-2015 at 11:22 PM.
#2
Anyone noticing some squeakiness occurring when the clutch pedal is pressed all the way in? It gets very noticeable when the car is warmed up so it seems like some metal on metal expansion is happening causing the audible squeak. You can really feel some creaking through your foot as you press into or release off of 100% push of the clutch. Car doesn't have to be on for one to hear it and the sound seems to be coming from the front of the car above or in front of the pedals, so it's likely not a premature throwout bearing failure. I tried looking under to see if something could be lubed with some chain oil or lithium grease but couldn't find the troublemaker. Car shifts perfectly fine so I gave up quick. Booked an appointment for next Saturday morning at the dealer to take a look.
My guess is one of the following:
-Clutch boost assist spring or bolt needs a decent glob of grease.
-Bad clutch pedal pivot or rod, needing the whole clutch+brake pedal assembly to be replaced.
-Bad clutch master cylinder, which would likely cause some shifting issues so likely not.
My guess is one of the following:
-Clutch boost assist spring or bolt needs a decent glob of grease.
-Bad clutch pedal pivot or rod, needing the whole clutch+brake pedal assembly to be replaced.
-Bad clutch master cylinder, which would likely cause some shifting issues so likely not.
#4
I noticed a squeaky clutch for the first time this past weekend and then again last night. It seemed to only happen once the car has warmed up and during the last bit of clutch depression. Happens with the car both off and on.
The sound I heard sounded like it was coming from beneath and behind the driver's seat. It was significantly more noticeable when I was sitting with the door open in the driveway.
It hasn't really worried me, but perhaps I'll run it by the dealership and see what they think.
The sound I heard sounded like it was coming from beneath and behind the driver's seat. It was significantly more noticeable when I was sitting with the door open in the driveway.
It hasn't really worried me, but perhaps I'll run it by the dealership and see what they think.
#5
In case anyone's curious, here's what the clutch and brake pedal unit looks like taken out:
The piston bit pushes on the master cylinder, but above that on the clutch hinge there's plastic tube that holds a big spring.
#6
Stopped by dealer this morning. They initially greased the pedal assembly but when they were testing it, another mechanic noticed the noise coming from above the transmission. Now we're thinking it's something rubbing on the clutch slave cylinder. Unfortunately the tech that normally services GT cars only works weekdays so I'll need to do another follow-up visit Tuesday morning. The grease does help however with the creaky spring tension feel on the pedal even with the car well warmed up. More to come...
#7
Well, the GT car techs took a look today and it looks like it's the worst case scenario and the problem is the throw-out bearing. Unfortunately you can't order that alone and it has to come as a complete clutch kit with this car, so after just 1000 miles I'm getting a brand new clutch on Porsche's dime. Parts are ordered from Germany and will be sent with overnight shipping. Actually more annoyed that this puts a hindrance on my holiday travel plans than needing a full transmission out service at the moment.
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#9
Yeah, if there are silver linings to this is that these guys will be triple checking their work when it's replaced and I'm assuming Porsche will want the old parts back for analysis. Better to have this happen early than later when they can blame wear & tear and deny warranty coverage I guess .
#10
Yeah, if there are silver linings to this is that these guys will be triple checking their work when it's replaced and I'm assuming Porsche will want the old parts back for analysis. Better to have this happen early than later when they can blame wear & tear and deny warranty coverage I guess .
#12
Likely just my car. Hopefully I'll get more details the next time I visit when they plan on executing the repairs. It'll be my third visit for the same issue and driving there and back in DC traffic is an utter pain in the ***. If there ends up being a fourth I'm going to pursue Lemon Law arbitration.
Last edited by soupy; 12-17-2015 at 04:27 PM.
#13
Dang, Soupy that sucks.
I had my car in the shop today for an oil change and had them take a look at my squeaking clutch. The guy that took a look thought it could be the slave cylinder needing to be oiled. He didn't seem real confident though. He said he'd seen a similar issue with other cars caymans/911s and lubing the slave cylinder resolved the issue.
Was your squeak pretty loud Soupy? I can only here the squeak on mine when not moving, any other time there is too much other noise for me to hear it. It happens regardless of if the car is on or off, but only after it's warmed up.
I have an appointment to have it looked at by the dealership just after the new year. I'll report back what they find then.
I had my car in the shop today for an oil change and had them take a look at my squeaking clutch. The guy that took a look thought it could be the slave cylinder needing to be oiled. He didn't seem real confident though. He said he'd seen a similar issue with other cars caymans/911s and lubing the slave cylinder resolved the issue.
Was your squeak pretty loud Soupy? I can only here the squeak on mine when not moving, any other time there is too much other noise for me to hear it. It happens regardless of if the car is on or off, but only after it's warmed up.
I have an appointment to have it looked at by the dealership just after the new year. I'll report back what they find then.
#14
Likely just my car. Hopefully I'll get more details the next time I visit when they plan on executing the repairs. It'll be my third visit for the same issue and driving there and back in DC traffic is an utter pain in the ***. If there ends up being a forth I'm going to pursue Lemon Law arbitration.
#15
That basically sounds like my issue. At one point the noise got really bad that anyone with their windows down at a stop light could hear it, but it calmed down after another hundred miles of backroad runs. The worst part of it isn't really the noise but the extra friction you feel as the TOB is sliding on the shaft to operate the pressure plate. It's inconsistent and half the time it's fine but that really puts a damper on a rhythm when you're driving at a brisk pace. I'll be really curious to see what it ends up looking like when they pull it out.