Fun factor test: 997RS vs GT4
08-01-2018, 06:43 PM
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Drifting
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Fun factor test: 997RS vs GT4
Gent's,
This is kinda crazy but I want to see if any of you have both cars or have driven both back to back or have driven a good amount of miles in each. I know each car inside and out but still haven't ridden or driven the GT4. No candy coating
This is kinda crazy but I want to see if any of you have both cars or have driven both back to back or have driven a good amount of miles in each. I know each car inside and out but still haven't ridden or driven the GT4. No candy coating
08-01-2018, 08:00 PM
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The GT4 is better
08-01-2018, 08:56 PM
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997.2 GT3 RS > 997.1 GT3 RS.
Is the GT4 better than the 997.2 GT3 RS? I think for me it depends on what you value more. I chose the less powerful car and determined to improve the seat cover (ie: me!).
Is the GT4 better than the 997.2 GT3 RS? I think for me it depends on what you value more. I chose the less powerful car and determined to improve the seat cover (ie: me!).
08-01-2018, 09:12 PM
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^ True. It is better. The question is, is it more fun? That's gonna be pretty personal.
Fwiw, I put nearly 15,000 miles on my GT4 before selling it because I needed back seats, and probably another 1000-1200 miles on GT4 press cars. They are great cars—with incredible chassis and they offer a lot of value. Also, my GT4 was bulletproof, with a small squeak from the B-pillar (easily rectified under warranty) being the only issue over two years and 15,000 miles.
I've spent less time in 997 RSs (both generations), but probably something close to 3000-5000 miles all in. The RS 4.0 is the answer every time, remaining one of my all-time favorite 911s. But that usually isn't in the cards in these discussions. So, 997.1 RS 3.6 or 997.2 RS vs GT4? I think the GT4 offers more easily accessible fun while the 997 RSs offer more in the long run, more experience. More personality. And, for me, ultimately more fun. YMMV...
08-01-2018, 09:57 PM
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I have driven both on the street and the track. I prefer using the GT4 and currently own one.
While the GT4 is the objectively superior car, the 997.2 GT3 RS is clearly more special. The steering and shifter on the 997 are no more accurate, but they are more of an occasion to use due to their tactile characteristics. The GT4's engine has a broader usable range, but the 997 has a stronger pull to redline.
While the GT4 is the objectively superior car, the 997.2 GT3 RS is clearly more special. The steering and shifter on the 997 are no more accurate, but they are more of an occasion to use due to their tactile characteristics. The GT4's engine has a broader usable range, but the 997 has a stronger pull to redline.
08-01-2018, 10:18 PM
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Thanks Gents..
The responses are about what I expected. I had a first Gen Cayman S Sport and remember that very sweet feeling of a mid engine car pivoting under your butt on track! I also loved the accessibility and crazy top end rush of my 991 GT3 but ultimately I went back to the 997RS because of size, feel, specialness, rarity, occasion and the fact that it takes time to learn. The intriguing part of the GT4 is that it is smaller, more modern and has more accessibility as a daily. I also love the look of the car. I also know the prowess of a well set up GT4 on track and the tinker factor is attractive. I really need to get a drive in one sometime. I suspect I may be a tad dissapointed in the power delivery but that not everything. I guess like all of us an RS GT4 might do the trick. We'll see...
The responses are about what I expected. I had a first Gen Cayman S Sport and remember that very sweet feeling of a mid engine car pivoting under your butt on track! I also loved the accessibility and crazy top end rush of my 991 GT3 but ultimately I went back to the 997RS because of size, feel, specialness, rarity, occasion and the fact that it takes time to learn. The intriguing part of the GT4 is that it is smaller, more modern and has more accessibility as a daily. I also love the look of the car. I also know the prowess of a well set up GT4 on track and the tinker factor is attractive. I really need to get a drive in one sometime. I suspect I may be a tad dissapointed in the power delivery but that not everything. I guess like all of us an RS GT4 might do the trick. We'll see...
08-01-2018, 10:22 PM
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I'm unfortunately a one car guy and I'm afraid I'm now locked into a special car that won't let me explore the bucket list...Trending Topics
08-01-2018, 10:32 PM
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^ True. It is better. The question is, is it more fun? That's gonna be pretty personal.
Fwiw, I put nearly 15,000 miles on my GT4 before selling it because I needed back seats, and probably another 1000-1200 miles on GT4 press cars. They are great cars—with incredible chassis and they offer a lot of value. Also, my GT4 was bulletproof, with a small squeak from the B-pillar (easily rectified under warranty) being the only issue over two years and 15,000 miles.
I've spent less time in 997 RSs (both generations), but probably something close to 3000-5000 miles all in. The RS 4.0 is the answer every time, remaining one of my all-time favorite 911s. But that usually isn't in the cards in these discussions. So, 997.1 RS 3.6 or 997.2 RS vs GT4? I think the GT4 offers more easily accessible fun while the 997 RSs offer more in the long run, more experience. More personality. And, for me, ultimately more fun. YMMV...
Fwiw, I put nearly 15,000 miles on my GT4 before selling it because I needed back seats, and probably another 1000-1200 miles on GT4 press cars. They are great cars—with incredible chassis and they offer a lot of value. Also, my GT4 was bulletproof, with a small squeak from the B-pillar (easily rectified under warranty) being the only issue over two years and 15,000 miles.
I've spent less time in 997 RSs (both generations), but probably something close to 3000-5000 miles all in. The RS 4.0 is the answer every time, remaining one of my all-time favorite 911s. But that usually isn't in the cards in these discussions. So, 997.1 RS 3.6 or 997.2 RS vs GT4? I think the GT4 offers more easily accessible fun while the 997 RSs offer more in the long run, more experience. More personality. And, for me, ultimately more fun. YMMV...
08-02-2018, 12:33 AM
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08-02-2018, 03:05 AM
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997.2GT3RS > GT4
more character
better dancing partner
GT4 is like dancing with your daughter at her wedding day...
997.2GT3RS > GT4
more character
better dancing partner
GT4 is like dancing with your daughter at her wedding day...
08-02-2018, 04:44 AM
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I have driven both, no questions GT4 hands down for me.
08-02-2018, 10:42 AM
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08-02-2018, 01:23 PM
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GT4 + Dundon headers and tune + TPC DSC and toe links + a set of Fotgelines. My choice is the GT4 and I have driven the others on and off track.
No kids so no reference point for dancing.
No kids so no reference point for dancing.
08-02-2018, 02:15 PM
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I have driven both quite a bit.
I would not give up a 997.2 RS for a GT4 for street occasional drive purposes. No question. The .2RS has much more of a mechanical feel with all of the noises, vibrations, etc that go along with it. You feel like you are driving a machine. It is a little rough around the edges which for me means more fun on the street for me. Hydraulic steering rack is a plus too regardless of how good the electric steering is getting. Mezger engine. Shorter gearing, etc.
If I was building a track weapon to beat on then I would probably start with the GT4 platform. Mid engine all the way.
If I was planning on taking a long trip or more extensive street use the GT4 would probably get the nod if I had to pick between them. It is quieter, more comfortable, a tiny bit softer, overhang is shorter and nose clearance better. The interior, radio, switchgear is all more modern so that is a nice thing on the street. But then again for that purpose I still think there are better modern P cars for the street.
I would not give up a 997.2 RS for a GT4 for street occasional drive purposes. No question. The .2RS has much more of a mechanical feel with all of the noises, vibrations, etc that go along with it. You feel like you are driving a machine. It is a little rough around the edges which for me means more fun on the street for me. Hydraulic steering rack is a plus too regardless of how good the electric steering is getting. Mezger engine. Shorter gearing, etc.
If I was building a track weapon to beat on then I would probably start with the GT4 platform. Mid engine all the way.
If I was planning on taking a long trip or more extensive street use the GT4 would probably get the nod if I had to pick between them. It is quieter, more comfortable, a tiny bit softer, overhang is shorter and nose clearance better. The interior, radio, switchgear is all more modern so that is a nice thing on the street. But then again for that purpose I still think there are better modern P cars for the street.