718 GT4?
03-07-2019, 02:43 PM
#6031
03-07-2019, 04:11 PM
#6032
Rennlist Member
New York 4/17-18
Beijing 4/25-26
Porsche he has utilized both for debuts.
Beijing 4/25-26
Porsche he has utilized both for debuts.
03-07-2019, 05:58 PM
#6033
Rennlist Member
03-07-2019, 08:20 PM
#6035
Thats it, I cant stand it any longer. All this talk of this and that. So I have one real bit of info that no Porsche dealer knows.
My local Mercedes dealer contact has a direct line with marketing in Germany, oldy enough, and he is a big Porsche fan too. He was so kind to tell me all the upcoming gossip and he did confirm its a 4L and a turbo! How bout dat!
So we purchased the new AMG C63S....
My local Mercedes dealer contact has a direct line with marketing in Germany, oldy enough, and he is a big Porsche fan too. He was so kind to tell me all the upcoming gossip and he did confirm its a 4L and a turbo! How bout dat!
So we purchased the new AMG C63S....
03-07-2019, 08:27 PM
#6036
At the risk of getting put on the pariah blacklist or something, I will admit I was pulling for you through the whole weird debate a few months ago before the CS reveal. I have no dog in the hunt, but the smug arrogance of the so-called experts, with their "I go to the factory and they would never steer me wrong" proclamations, plus the sycophantic "You GO, hero!!!" cheering of their star-struck supporters ("Do you KNOW who you're questioning??? Why, he correctly predicted the release of the Gmund Coupe back in 1948!!!"), made me feel like I had wandered onto HondaFanBoi.Net, not a gathering of supposedly free-thinking professionals who can afford a car like this.
Anyway, congratulations on each of the points you make above; it seems that a) the CS is NOT 4.0, as many said; b) Porsche have already said the road car needn't be the same engine as the CS, so even if it ultimately proves to be the same your point is correct; c) I think you speculated that it might be a turbo motor, but I'm unwilling to read back enough to find out. Now that speculation looks to be wrong, but I suppose all bets are off till we see the car. I do sorta hope it is, though, just for the pure schadenfreude of seeing the overly-certain experts be wrong again; it's the cussed contrarian in me.
Anyway, congratulations on each of the points you make above; it seems that a) the CS is NOT 4.0, as many said; b) Porsche have already said the road car needn't be the same engine as the CS, so even if it ultimately proves to be the same your point is correct; c) I think you speculated that it might be a turbo motor, but I'm unwilling to read back enough to find out. Now that speculation looks to be wrong, but I suppose all bets are off till we see the car. I do sorta hope it is, though, just for the pure schadenfreude of seeing the overly-certain experts be wrong again; it's the cussed contrarian in me.
Also, I do not recall anyone being arrogant or condescending.
If you do not want people on a shared forum to share their opinions, not sure what else we should be doing.
03-07-2019, 08:37 PM
#6037
Thats it, I cant stand it any longer. All this talk of this and that. So I have one real bit of info that no Porsche dealer knows.
My local Mercedes dealer contact has a direct line with marketing in Germany, oldy enough, and he is a big Porsche fan too. He was so kind to tell me all the upcoming gossip and he did confirm its a 4L and a turbo! How bout dat!
So we purchased the new AMG C63S....
My local Mercedes dealer contact has a direct line with marketing in Germany, oldy enough, and he is a big Porsche fan too. He was so kind to tell me all the upcoming gossip and he did confirm its a 4L and a turbo! How bout dat!
So we purchased the new AMG C63S....
03-07-2019, 08:53 PM
#6038
Not sure why you're so happy about someone being wrong, specially if you do not know what's right either. Don't really get that.
Also, I do not recall anyone being arrogant or condescending.
If you do not want people on a shared forum to share their opinions, not sure what else we should be doing.
Yet, people with "other" opinions in this forum were shouted down and literally made fun of.
The one's that didnt make the trip across the Atlantic for the VIP tour in Weissach.
03-07-2019, 09:10 PM
#6039
Burning Brakes
03-08-2019, 12:42 AM
#6041
Rennlist Member
A lot of the people that posted details have typically been reliable in the past. I think all this is less about those folks and more about the inflection point we're at in the industry with electric/hybridization on the horizon causing challenges in product planning. 981 is now scheduled for 3 revisions - 981, 982.1, and 982.2. Look at the new Ferrari F8, third revision of the same platform after the 458 and 488. The tick tock cycle of platform refreshes is off for some manufacturers who are squeezing an extra gen out of old platforms as a stopgap till hybrid/electric is ready.
992 seems timed right for a hybrid 992.2 in a few years. After that 983? hybrid/electric if the boxster/Cayman survives at all. Seems like we'll get either a short run of 982.1 MY 2020 GT4s and then another run of 2023 final edition 982.2 GT4s or a longer contiguous run of GT4s from 2020 to 2022 (like the 991.1 GT3 from 2014 to 2016) with some GT4/spyder touring models, PDK, and maybe a 2023 GT4rs scattered in there to keep things interesting. I'm guessing the latter which is why they are pushing the GT4 release later than expected....
992 seems timed right for a hybrid 992.2 in a few years. After that 983? hybrid/electric if the boxster/Cayman survives at all. Seems like we'll get either a short run of 982.1 MY 2020 GT4s and then another run of 2023 final edition 982.2 GT4s or a longer contiguous run of GT4s from 2020 to 2022 (like the 991.1 GT3 from 2014 to 2016) with some GT4/spyder touring models, PDK, and maybe a 2023 GT4rs scattered in there to keep things interesting. I'm guessing the latter which is why they are pushing the GT4 release later than expected....
03-08-2019, 01:34 AM
#6042
There were others who did that. TCS specifically explained over and over again in full detail, the reasoning behind what he stated.
03-08-2019, 05:05 AM
#6044
A lot of the people that posted details have typically been reliable in the past. I think all this is less about those folks and more about the inflection point we're at in the industry with electric/hybridization on the horizon causing challenges in product planning. 981 is now scheduled for 3 revisions - 981, 982.1, and 982.2. Look at the new Ferrari F8, third revision of the same platform after the 458 and 488. The tick tock cycle of platform refreshes is off for some manufacturers who are squeezing an extra gen out of old platforms as a stopgap till hybrid/electric is ready.
992 seems timed right for a hybrid 992.2 in a few years. After that 983? hybrid/electric if the boxster/Cayman survives at all. Seems like we'll get either a short run of 982.1 MY 2020 GT4s and then another run of 2023 final edition 982.2 GT4s or a longer contiguous run of GT4s from 2020 to 2022 (like the 991.1 GT3 from 2014 to 2016) with some GT4/spyder touring models, PDK, and maybe a 2023 GT4rs scattered in there to keep things interesting. I'm guessing the latter which is why they are pushing the GT4 release later than expected....
992 seems timed right for a hybrid 992.2 in a few years. After that 983? hybrid/electric if the boxster/Cayman survives at all. Seems like we'll get either a short run of 982.1 MY 2020 GT4s and then another run of 2023 final edition 982.2 GT4s or a longer contiguous run of GT4s from 2020 to 2022 (like the 991.1 GT3 from 2014 to 2016) with some GT4/spyder touring models, PDK, and maybe a 2023 GT4rs scattered in there to keep things interesting. I'm guessing the latter which is why they are pushing the GT4 release later than expected....
981 platform looks timeless. Just needs more power and better suspension geometry, but what a fantastic entry level GT car.
