718 GT4?
01-04-2019, 12:04 PM
#5026
Originally Posted by pothole
I disagree fairly violently!
The new car could have identical peak torque, and still feel completely different if that torque is produced higher up the rev range. Based on the numbers seen so far, I expect the new engine to have significantly more top end sparkle, which is what the original lack. It doesn't need any additional torque whatosever. It just needs a different style of power delivery. Which it looks as though it is getting.
The new car could have identical peak torque, and still feel completely different if that torque is produced higher up the rev range. Based on the numbers seen so far, I expect the new engine to have significantly more top end sparkle, which is what the original lack. It doesn't need any additional torque whatosever. It just needs a different style of power delivery. Which it looks as though it is getting.
How about disagreeing vehemently instead of violently. We really don't need more violence in the world, especially when we're discussing sports cars. :-)
Last edited by HelpMeHelpU; 01-04-2019 at 02:34 PM.
01-04-2019, 12:48 PM
#5027
Three Wheelin'
I disagree fairly violently!
The new car could have identical peak torque, and still feel completely different if that torque is produced higher up the rev range. Based on the numbers seen so far, I expect the new engine to have significantly more top end sparkle, which is what the original lack. It doesn't need any additional torque whatosever. It just needs a different style of power delivery. Which it looks as though it is getting.
The new car could have identical peak torque, and still feel completely different if that torque is produced higher up the rev range. Based on the numbers seen so far, I expect the new engine to have significantly more top end sparkle, which is what the original lack. It doesn't need any additional torque whatosever. It just needs a different style of power delivery. Which it looks as though it is getting.
If it feels completely different, then it has a completely different character, and I agree that could be a good reason to purchase the new car. On the other hand, where do you drive your car that you are able to explore the top end so thoroughly? We have some nice mountain roads in New Mexico, and I'm pretty sure we're one of the lesser populated states in this country, but not many places where I can legally let the top end sparkle.
01-04-2019, 01:17 PM
#5029
I visited my Porsche dealer this afternoon here in Belgium. The salesman is assuring me the GT4 street car will be a 4.0L and have a manual gearbox. He seemed pretty certain of himself.
01-04-2019, 01:31 PM
#5030
my cleaning lady spy in flaut says that they rather PDK this time around. That way customers can beat on them trouble free like we do in the Club sports. So that leaves me wondering What happens to the manual??
I assume it would still have to be an option for those sunday drivers who like to row gears after driving a pickup to work all week.
Porsche want the same engine in the street
car as the race car. Hence they call the street car a “GT4”. They want the success of the race car to market the street car.
If they were to give the street car a totally different engine, then they wouldnt bother calling it a “GT4”. Porsche also didnt sandbag the race car with a 3.8L only to give the street car a stroked 4.0L
01-04-2019, 01:31 PM
#5031
Instructor
Thank you for that information, looks like I'll be ordering a 982 Spyder to replace 981 BGTS I ordered with PDK. Lack of a PDK option kept me away from GT4 / 981 Spyder. PDK is faster / zero overrevs … hope lizard green is available as a paint option.
01-04-2019, 02:04 PM
#5032
Rennlist Member
For me that just moved from the US to Europe.
Most trackdays I attend and tourist drives at the Ring demands the car to be street legal. A lot of us end up buying street legal gt3, gt3rs and Gt4s and modify the cars so we end up with half a car in boxes before it handles to our liking.
Ask Manthey racing how many street cars they modify every year.
A modified gt4cs “trackday” edition would be very welcomed and would save a lot of hassle and work.
Most trackdays I attend and tourist drives at the Ring demands the car to be street legal. A lot of us end up buying street legal gt3, gt3rs and Gt4s and modify the cars so we end up with half a car in boxes before it handles to our liking.
Ask Manthey racing how many street cars they modify every year.
A modified gt4cs “trackday” edition would be very welcomed and would save a lot of hassle and work.
All Porsche GT race cars go through them for final prep. Basically whatever they do to a car, it's 'factory' approved.
01-04-2019, 02:12 PM
#5033
Rennlist Member
In a street car, 'Sport Plus' mode will hold lower gears until it redlines, in the preview ClubSport, it doesn't hold gears, it upshifts in partial throttles. The logic is sometimes annoying but can be fixed by moving the shift lever to manual mode and just use the paddles.
01-04-2019, 02:17 PM
#5034
Rennlist Member
Then SRO realized they could build a series out of it. A cheaper race series, but then McLaren, AMG ruins it by detuning their GT3 cars to get them to the GT4 class. Porsche had to get the MR then EVO kit out, and now a gen 2 car with more HP just to stay in the game.
The rest is history.
01-04-2019, 02:18 PM
#5035
Rennlist Member
Barring any last minute changes again, there will be 3 more street car versions after the race car. The range topper is the one with the higher displacement.
01-04-2019, 02:21 PM
#5036
01-04-2019, 02:26 PM
#5037
Originally Posted by Whoopsy
Barring any last minute changes again, there will be 3 more street car versions after the race car. The range topper is the one with the higher displacement.
Wow. Ok so my guess:
Spyder - 3.8L (Same as CS) 6MT 1st, then PDK
GT4 - 3.8L (Same as CS) 6MT 1st, then PDK
GT4RS - 4.0L??? PDK only $$$$$$$ 918 buyers first dibs - fat markups for regular joes.
01-04-2019, 02:29 PM
#5038
Burning Brakes
He'd tell you his mother has a 14 inch **** if he thought you'd believe it and it would get you to buy a car. He's a salesman.
01-04-2019, 02:31 PM
#5039
Rennlist Member
01-04-2019, 02:42 PM
#5040
Rennlist Member
I hope all 3 cars are shown in 2019. Waiting until 2020 to see the RS would be painful.