I'm thinking I should get the car in hand before saying,
but no it is not Champion.


I truly believe the GT4 is a serious bargain even at the inflated prices. What else compares to it? A track car that you could drive in the mountains or out to a nice dinner!

 

Penske is no
good
the old
man should
see what the kids are doing. his name being tarnished

failed to provide allocation with written doc and have. it send back my
deposit of mere $500.

 

Well, the dealer you're showing love in your sig is asking big premiums too. Most around here are.

 

^ u are right. they are changing.

 

^Yea, this weekend, the Sales Manager at Fremont Porsche told me they are considering not taking deposits on GT cars anymore but instead configuring the car themselves and selling it. Sad, my SA there - Viraj was awesome to deal with and wish I didn't have to go hunting for another.

Edit: was Sales Manager, not GM.

 

not taking list is one thing
charging up is another
but having dealers spec and focking up these cars is a sin. absolute sin.
EVERY dealer spec'd car is fkd up, no exception. zero.
i have seen likely more RS spec than anyone alive. i have NEVER seen a dealer spec that's not fkd up.
this is a sin.
not many crime is worst then that.....

go ahead and charge a premium but dont mess up the spec.
dealers most of them can't figure out how to drive the car if their life depended on it. so how and why should the do the spec.....

 

Mooty, you should go talk to David Saucedo there. Cause he was pretty sure they knew how to spec the cars "correctly".

To be fair, he said nothing was set in stone, but that is what they were considering. What I found weird was the reason he gave for this new approach - the stick they got from people who did not get a GT4/RS/R allocation. Not sure how this new equal opportunity dick approach will fix that. Hopefully it doesn't come to it.

 

no dealer knows how to spec
if they knew then so will pag then why have option at all. make it all the same
example I will not take a car with lift.
I will not
take a car with chrono.
no not even a 991r

some must have navi
other must have lift
many like pccb

so how can anyone spec a car for anyone else?

 

Porsche (or dealers) are taking the same path as Ferrari who have this game with their best clients due to Ferrari NA limiting new car gouging/flipping. The sell at face value, best client buys it early and holds for 6 months, then back to dealer at hefty markup as low mileage used.
Best Client/Dealer split some profit, dealer gets more allocations and dealer gets to gouge on the secondary market, skirting corporate markup on original purchase limits.

 

I'm guessing their view is, rather than make a list of names that just rewards who called first and results in other customers being pissed, why not just spec the cars themselves and sell them at whatever the market will bear. I'd have no problem with that. No different than 80 percent of the cars they sell otherwise.

And of all the dealers around here that I've shopped, Fremont seemed to do the best job of doing spec cars for enthusiasts. I noticed that each dealer had a kind of style to their builds that ran through their inventory. I found more cars to like at Fremont than any other dealer. Close second was Livermore, which had a number of very nice sporty builds. Some of the dealers seem to go more the luxo-Carrera route with most of their inventory, which doesn't appeal to me.

 

Wow, some buyer experience! ( yes, that was full on sarcasm)
Their marketing deptartment must be rolling in their grave...LOL

No better way to tell a highly specialized crowd that pride themselves on the details about their new Porsche by saying "oh, and we spec'ed it for you!"

 

I think you'd be surprised by how low the percentage of Porsches spec'd by customers vs dealers actually is already. They'd still sell every GT car they get, and everybody would have a shot at it. Being able to spec a car is meaningless if you can't even get on the allocation list to begin with.

How's your GT3 RS build looking? Or your 911R?

 

I voted with my wallet and paid huge over sticker to spec it my way.

 

$15k over at Livermore.

Friend just inquired. Opted to go with Rancho Mirage.

 

Fremont is $15K too