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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 07:59 PM
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Hi all,

I've got a deposit on a GT4 that's arriving later this month. It's one that the dealer had ordered, so I didn't get a chance to change anything. It's about $12k above MSRP which doesn't seem too crazy.

Here's the spec:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PGFWF4P7

For the same markup above MSRP, the same dealer still has a few allocations that aren't arriving until next spring but are configurable. Hmm...a dilemma. If I configured it myself, I'd probably get something like this:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PGPHU435

Other than the PCCBs, there's nothing I don't like about the already-ordered car; it's just kinda expensive and a bit fancy for something I'll mostly track. I've got a base Cayman right now and I'm looking to get something with more performance but still not worry about it being too pretty. My current Cayman always has rubber marks on it somewhere - usually the windshield sadly! - and the new one will too.

So, I've got two questions for current GT4 owners:
1. Is there anything missing in my "cheap" build that you'd miss not having?
2. Is there anything in the already-ordered car that'd you'd definitely not want in a track car (other than the PCCBs)?

Lastly, I've got a recent Targa (that I'm selling) that has Bose while the base Cayman doesn't. There's no Bose option for the GT4; what's the closest thing? I definitely notice the difference between the 911 and Cayman and while the GT4 will mostly be tracked, I'm still going to be driving the five hours to and from the track.

Thanks!
Fergus
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by FergusH
Hi all,

I've got a deposit on a GT4 that's arriving later this month. It's one that the dealer had ordered, so I didn't get a chance to change anything. It's about $12k above MSRP which doesn't seem too crazy.

Here's the spec:
http://www.porsche-code.com/PGFWF4P7

For the same markup above MSRP, the same dealer still has a few allocations that aren't arriving until next spring but are configurable. Hmm...a dilemma. If I configured it myself, I'd probably get something like this:

http://www.porsche-code.com/PGPHU435

Other than the PCCBs, there's nothing I don't like about the already-ordered car; it's just kinda expensive and a bit fancy for something I'll mostly track. I've got a base Cayman right now and I'm looking to get something with more performance but still not worry about it being too pretty. My current Cayman always has rubber marks on it somewhere - usually the windshield sadly! - and the new one will too.

So, I've got two questions for current GT4 owners:
1. Is there anything missing in my "cheap" build that you'd miss not having?
2. Is there anything in the already-ordered car that'd you'd definitely not want in a track car (other than the PCCBs)?

Lastly, I've got a recent Targa (that I'm selling) that has Bose while the base Cayman doesn't. There's no Bose option for the GT4; what's the closest thing? I definitely notice the difference between the 911 and Cayman and while the GT4 will mostly be tracked, I'm still going to be driving the five hours to and from the track.

Thanks!
Fergus
Looks great the only thing I wouldn't have gotten on this build (other than the color (Racing Yellow ) I am partial to White and Black, call me crazy :-)
I would forgo the painted wheels .. but that is just me (old fart) ... Love the build otherwise ... Yellow is still very nice !!
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 09:18 PM
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You really don't want PCCBs for track use. Beyond that, there is a lot of bling on the pre built car that is driving the price up.

On your build, I would add lighting package, dual zone climate and take all of the freebies. Color is a personal choice, but I would also prefer white over yellow.
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Old Nov 4, 2015 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by David Schacht
You really don't want PCCBs for track use. Beyond that, there is a lot of bling on the pre built car that is driving the price up.

On your build, I would add lighting package, dual zone climate and take all of the freebies. Color is a personal choice, but I would also prefer white over yellow.
I agree ! My bad. I missed that I have both light design and 2 zone and like them both !! PCCB would only be for looks for me, as the steel brakes are more than adequate but they do look nice on certain color cars
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 01:58 AM
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A bunch of allocations were released last week.

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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 02:29 AM
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I've heard that but it doesn't seem to have translated into anyone saying they've found a dealer with MSRP allocations and I've called a bunch of dealers. Any pointers?
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FergusH
I've heard that but it doesn't seem to have translated into anyone saying they've found a dealer with MSRP allocations and I've called a bunch of dealers. Any pointers?
It's a cultural thing at this point. For some of the dealers I've talked to in the southeast, the idea of selling an allocation above MSRP is completely foreign - something they would never consider. West coast dealers, on the other hand, are more than comfortable making this standard operating procedure.

The problem is that many of those dealers that don't sell above MSRP are also holding firm on selling in their territory. This is particularly true for smaller dealers and markets, it seems. These are halo cars and they like to see them in the dealership and acting as free advertisement on the street.

A smart dealer would cultivate loyalty and good will with a customer by offering a fair deal, particularly to a buyer of a GT car, who is obviously a car nut and very likely to buy another expensive car down the road. Unfortunately, many are blinded by the short term gain.

Allocations at MSRP are out there, for sure, but if your market commands above MSRP, then you have the task of finding a dealer with an allocation at MSRP willing to sell outside his/her territory. At this point, that is a very difficult thing to find.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 10:57 AM
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I received my allocation at MSRP, but I had already been on my dealer's list for quite some time.
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Old Nov 5, 2015 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
It's a cultural thing at this point. For some of the dealers I've talked to in the southeast, the idea of selling an allocation above MSRP is completely foreign - something they would never consider. West coast dealers, on the other hand, are more than comfortable making this standard operating procedure.

The problem is that many of those dealers that don't sell above MSRP are also holding firm on selling in their territory. This is particularly true for smaller dealers and markets, it seems. These are halo cars and they like to see them in the dealership and acting as free advertisement on the street.

A smart dealer would cultivate loyalty and good will with a customer by offering a fair deal, particularly to a buyer of a GT car, who is obviously a car nut and very likely to buy another expensive car down the road. Unfortunately, many are blinded by the short term gain.

Allocations at MSRP are out there, for sure, but if your market commands above MSRP, then you have the task of finding a dealer with an allocation at MSRP willing to sell outside his/her territory. At this point, that is a very difficult thing to find.
Based on interactions with my dealer, the preferential treatment for locals is absolutely true.
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