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FWIW: I know about less than reputable SA's at some Porsche dealerships putting their name down at multiple dealerships out of their respective regions for the 911R.
PCNA really needs to come to terms in regards to the behavior of some of the folks who are representing the brand. Those rotten apples are completely ruining the brand.
PCNA really needs to come to terms in regards to the behavior of some of the folks who are representing the brand. Those rotten apples are completely ruining the brand.
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You're assuming there is anything they can do. Many of the things mentioned in this thread, while maybe unsavory, are probably not forbidden under the dealer agreement. So PCNA probably doesn't have much ability to do anything.
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I tell you what,I wouldn't pay a premium for any car,but speaking of the Miata,if I didn't enjoy thrashing my NB so much right now,I'd definitely get the ND! Man,they're so much fun! I'll pick an ND used down the road because I'm cheap. 
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I had an NA and an NB. Loved them both. Would have no problem driving another.
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FWIW: I know about less than reputable SA's at some Porsche dealerships putting their name down at multiple dealerships out of their respective regions for the 911R.
PCNA really needs to come to terms in regards to the behavior of some of the folks who are representing the brand. Those rotten apples are completely ruining the brand.
PCNA really needs to come to terms in regards to the behavior of some of the folks who are representing the brand. Those rotten apples are completely ruining the brand.
Good afternoon Mr. C,
I was concerned to read your email and wanted to reach out to you. Our group in the customer commitment can request the dealership to comment on sales matters, but unfortunately we are not in a position to intervene in matters of sales. I believe the best course of action would be for you to write a letter to the general manager of Porsche of XXX. I can provide you with contact information and addresses if you like.
The Porsche dealerships have the autonomy to conduct all sales matters and as such have the final say on who they sell vehicles to. If there were any confusion regarding the sales issues I am sure they would be open to discuss the matter with you.
I understand that this is not the answer you would want to receive, and I am sorry but this will be a matter to discuss with your dealership.
Kind regards,
Mr. PCNA Manager
Until they give a **** about you and me, it's a zero-sum game. I reminded them that their name is on the building, they determine allocations, they specify what dealerships should look like, what training they need, etc., i.e. EVERYTHING. So for them to cop out on helping a customer with a proven purchase history is pretty pathetic.
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Until they give a **** about you and me, it's a zero-sum game. I reminded them that their name is on the building, they determine allocations, they specify what dealerships should look like, what training they need, etc., i.e. EVERYTHING. So for them to cop out on helping a customer with a proven purchase history is pretty pathetic.
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It has nothing to do with whether they give a crap or not. Legally, there is nothing they can do. Dealers are independent resellers that have the right to set their own sales prices and terms. PCNA can cajole the dealers, which I'm sure they do as a group, but there is nothing they can do about an individual dealer. They're just being honest with you. You simply have to accept the fact that the dealer is not Porsche or PCNA. They are an independent Porsche reseller. Railing at PCNA is like yelling at a hooker's mother about her daughter's pricing.
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Yes and then they can get sued by the dealer for violating the agreement and punishing them unfairly. They can't mete out punishment for something that's not a violation of the agreement. Particularly when many of the dealers are doing the same thing. Don't like a dealer, find another. But don't blame PCNA. It's pointless.
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Yes and then they can get sued by the dealer for violating the agreement and punishing them unfairly. They can't mete out punishment for something that's not a violation of the agreement. Particularly when many of the dealers are doing the same thing. Don't like a dealer, find another. But don't blame PCNA. It's pointless.