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Old 09-02-2015 | 04:10 PM
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Ha, and so it begins again ... same story with the GT3 but that market is calming down a bit now. Love how these bubbles grow and then eventually pop.

Key word is pop ... the price will go down once everyone calms down a bit and gets distracted by other offerings like a potential PDK version, or a 17 model, etc etc etc ...

All these above MSRP prices are ridiculous but that's the free market I guess.
Old 09-09-2015 | 08:52 PM
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I made my weekly trip to the local candy store also known as Porsche of San Antonio and the Agate Gray GT4 is still there if that color turns you on and you want one today. Sticking color and well optioned but no lightweight buckets or PCCBS so I will wait
Old 09-09-2015 | 08:57 PM
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And for $130K it will be at the candy store the next time you go.

The one thing we never discuss in the million threads about dealerships and the market adjustments is the time value of money.

So do the dealerships own the whole cost of the car and when does it go on their books? There becomes a time where sitting on inventory to a certain point starts to cost you money, or make less money on the deal. I would assume at some point you would be better off selling for a little less, make a little less but not be paying for the inventory, no?
Old 09-09-2015 | 09:30 PM
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Here is another $130K+ asking. This is the highest asking price I have yet seen actually

http://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-s...09973176&Log=0
Old 09-09-2015 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by gmaki
Here is another $130K+ asking. This is the highest asking price I have yet seen actually
Are you forgetting the guy on here that was asking $160k?
Old 09-09-2015 | 10:35 PM
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FYI...There's a Sapphire Blue on Ebay right now with a price of $95k...160 miles.
Old 09-09-2015 | 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
FYI...There's a Sapphire Blue on Ebay right now with a price of $95k...160 miles.
That car was previously listed on ebay asking $115,000 so I assume his reserve is still going to be near that figure.
Old 09-09-2015 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CamsPorsche
FYI...There's a Sapphire Blue on Ebay right now with a price of $95k...160 miles.
You don't say......
Old 09-10-2015 | 12:38 AM
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Here's what happens every time. Eventually everyone that wants one has one and the price drops.
I'm not selling mine till its worth a lot less than i paid. I don't want to break my streak! carl
Old 09-11-2015 | 04:13 PM
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I'll bet the guy traded the GT4 in and got another car.
You're looking at only one end of the deal, the original owner's sale. We're all car guys and I'll bet when most of us sell a car we then look to buy another.
Originally Posted by Archimedes
If it's preowned, I wonder what they had to pay to get it back from one of their customers.

Are the bulk of GT4 s not being delivered with PCCBs?
Originally Posted by f4 plt
I made my weekly trip to the local candy store also known as Porsche of San Antonio and the Agate Gray GT4 is still there if that color turns you on and you want one today. Sticking color and well optioned but no lightweight buckets or PCCBS so I will wait
Old 09-11-2015 | 04:25 PM
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Do we have any data for what cars are actually selling for? There's been lots of high asks and vitriol about those asks but not a lot of real info. Would be very curious.
Old 09-11-2015 | 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Archimedes
...the wholesale value of the car was around $137k and the retail value was $155k. The interim transaction is simply a profit split, though I imagine the $137k was probably low for what he really could have gotten for that car, even wholesale, making the retail spread on that car look bigger than it really was/is.

There is no 'worth'. There are only transactions that establish 'value'.
In some situations, 'extra' dealer profit is made through a dealer tax loophole... In many states (iike Colorado), if a customer trades in a car on a more expensive car, he pays sales tax on the difference. If he sells privately, he will pay sales tax on the full amount of the new car.

At a 7%+ sales tax rate, the owner in the example above got a ~$10,000 tax savings by taking the dealers lowball trade offer, which the dealer effectively gets to put in their pocket.

Of course this has nothing to do with folks flipping GT4's for profit, which I find less distasteful then the flipper-prowlers who instantly jump on some craigslister selling his aircooled for too little and then marks it up $30K.
Old 09-12-2015 | 12:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisF
Do we have any data for what cars are actually selling for? There's been lots of high asks and vitriol about those asks but not a lot of real info. Would be very curious.
10-15 over is very common, and nearly instant.
Old 09-12-2015 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by ShakeNBake
10-15 over is very common, and nearly instant.
+1...bought mine for $10K over from a 918 owner.
Old 09-12-2015 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by usctrojanGT3
+1...bought mine for $10K over from a 918 owner.
I think $10-$15k over MSRP is a good number. I think there is a lot more people out there that have paid over MSRP but are just not willing to admit it.

I find all the " will I can not believe they are selling it for that much over MSRP " comments funny. So if you had to sell your GT4 you are going to be a nice guy and let it go for less than the market value I do not think so.


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