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Old 08-12-2015 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by roncooper
Sorry I was driving and utilizing Siri. Are you saying the language misuse in the eBay listing makes it confusing? I'll re read that and make necessary corrections. I was saying from the photos you can see the options.

And I stand corrected I should have said MSRP and not invoice. The total options sum is 29,390.00.
Well as long as you're correcting improper wording, it's factually inaccurate to say that every option that was available and authorized was chosen, in fact it's actually impossible given that some options are mutually exclusive, such as center console trim being available in leather, aluminum, black aluminum, carbon fiber, and paint. I can also tell right off the bat from the photos that you're missing leather steering column and headlamp washers in exterior color, for example, and probably a lot of other similar options as well. There's also no photo that shows the sun visors, inner door sills, or outer door sills to tell whether you optioned those up, and the photos showing the instrument cluster surround and air vent slats don't make it obvious whether you got those in leather. I could go on, but you get the idea.

Why not just post the build sheet, or otherwise type out the options you selected?
Old 08-12-2015 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by roncooper
Sorry I was driving and utilizing Siri. Are you saying the language misuse in the eBay listing makes it confusing? I'll re read that and make necessary corrections. I was saying from the photos you can see the options.

And I stand corrected I should have said MSRP and not invoice. The total options sum is 29,390.00.
People expect the window sticker with all the options listed for the car. That's the photo I was looking for and I didn't see it. If you don't have that you need to list every option configured on the build or it'll forever be a half assed ad not to be taken seriously. No one can tell exactly what options are on it from just general photos. For example does it have the expanded fuel tank, any extended leather options, software options, etc. etc.
Old 08-12-2015 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by soupy
Gotta love it when people write this for Porsche listings. Car should be drowning in leather by now if this was true with a MSRP of over 130k .
Man this is a tough crowed. Haha
Have you specked a GT4? I'm not talking about building one for curiosity. I had to change this build so many times due to porsche kicking it back due to no longer authorizing specific options, several things got pulled from the table.

Look at the interior it's pretty covered. They didn't offer leather pcm or leather ac vents but at nearly 30k in options I'd say it's pretty well loaded down

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Old 08-12-2015 | 12:35 AM
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You should become a RL member and sell it here. There are plenty of nuts here that are paying over MSRP. (And defend all the dealers that are applying this practice). It will sell quick. If dealers are asking that much, god bless you, hope you get it.
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Originally Posted by soupy
People expect the window sticker with all the options listed for the car. That's the photo I was looking for and I didn't see it. If you don't have that you need to list every option configured on the build or it'll forever be a half assed ad not to be taken seriously. No one can tell exactly what options are on it from just general photos. For example does it have the expanded fuel tank, any extended leather options, software options, etc. etc.
I understand and thank you for taking the time to educate me. I am not a car salesmen and I'm usually on the other end of most eBay listings.

I have attempted to modify the listing however I will need to do so at a PC.

Again thank you for your constructive criticism.
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Well as long as you're correcting improper wording, it's factually inaccurate to say that every option that was available and authorized was chosen, in fact it's actually impossible given that some options are mutually exclusive, such as center console trim being available in leather, aluminum, black aluminum, carbon fiber, and paint. I can also tell right off the bat from the photos that you're missing leather steering column and headlamp washers in exterior color, for example, and probably a lot of other similar options as well. There's also no photo that shows the sun visors, inner door sills, or outer door sills to tell whether you optioned those up, and the photos showing the instrument cluster surround and air vent slats don't make it obvious whether you got those in leather. I could go on, but you get the idea.

Why not just post the build sheet, or otherwise type out the options you selected?
What don't you understand about available and authorized. Your statement would have been correct had I said available. Assuming you have built and bought a new car you know that by selecting options like carbon trim makes brushed aluminum trim NOT AUTHORIZED.

All the other bull**** you listed were not available to me when I built the car.
Old 08-12-2015 | 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by C-gt3
You have turned down offers of over $30k .... Over msrp?
I have nothing nice to say about this....
Im really trying to refrain from saying F U.. So i wont say it...
I appreciate your willpower. What is the fundamental problem you have with this?
Old 08-12-2015 | 12:53 AM
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I'm curious to know if the car is technically new or used. The eBay ad lists it as new. Has it been titled or will the buyer be the first one to take title? I assume it's the former and the buyer will be the second owner?
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Originally Posted by roncooper
What don't you understand about available and authorized. Your statement would have been correct had I said available. Assuming you have built and bought a new car you know that by selecting options like carbon trim makes brushed aluminum trim NOT AUTHORIZED.

All the other bull**** you listed were not available to me when I built the car.
Wow, easy on the attitude there, sparky. First of all, I've ordered and optioned plenty of cars. Second, getting CF trim still allows you to get a leather center console, and there are several other similar examples, so my point about mutually exclusive options stands. But third and most importantly, how is any prospective buyer supposed to know what was "available and authorized" when your particular build came up? And what do you think the value of that statement is anyway? If some options they're interested in aren't on your build, do you think it will matter to them that the reason is that you couldn't select it for your allocation?

Soupy above is right that any serious seller would post a photo of the build sheet or Monroney sticker, or else just type out the exact spec rather than making ambiguous and inaccurate general statements. You're not trying to sell a family sedan here.
Old 08-12-2015 | 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by roncooper
I appreciate your willpower. What is the fundamental problem you have with this?
Probably your lack of ability to understand what available and authorized options are and how you can't possible have every one.

Couple that with your claim to have turned down $30K over (sticker), meaning you are here expecting to get EVEN MORE than that.

I can drive down to Auto Gallery tomorrow and have my choice of two different GT4's for $20K over.
Old 08-12-2015 | 12:58 AM
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I'm curious to know if the car is technically new or used. The eBay ad lists it as new. Has it been titled or will the buyer be the first one to take title? I assume it's the former and the buyer will be the second owner?
The car is titled I wasn't sure where to draw the line between new and used.
Old 08-12-2015 | 01:07 AM
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Wow dude, easy on the attitude. First of all, I've ordered and optioned plenty of cars. Second, getting CF trim still allows you to get a leather center console, so my point stands. But third and most importantly, how is any prospective buyer supposed to know what was "available and authorized" when your particular build came up? And why do you think they'd care? If some options they're interested in aren't on your build, do you think it will matter to them that the reason is that you couldn't select it for your allocation?

Soupy above is right that any serious seller would post a photo of the build sheet or Monroney sticker, or else just type out the exact spec rather than making ambiguous and inaccurate general statements. You're not trying to sell a family sedan here.
Was a leather center console an option on the GT4? With all that being said I see your point. I'm trying to be open minded and receptive to the critiques something I've never been very good at.

Next time I'll just post a picture of the car and the monroney.
Old 08-12-2015 | 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by roncooper
Sorry I was driving and utilizing Siri. Are you saying the language misuse in the eBay listing makes it confusing? I'll re read that and make necessary corrections. I was saying from the photos you can see the options.

And I stand corrected I should have said MSRP and not invoice. The total options sum is 29,390.00.
are you using MSRP to refer to base price plus options or just the base price?
Old 08-12-2015 | 01:13 AM
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Originally Posted by roncooper
The car is titled I wasn't sure where to draw the line between new and used.
Definitely used because the warranty clock is already ticking.
Old 08-12-2015 | 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gmaki
Probably your lack of ability to understand what available and authorized options are and how you can't possible have every one.

Couple that with your claim to have turned down $30K over (sticker), meaning you are here expecting to get EVEN MORE than that.

I can drive down to Auto Gallery tomorrow and have my choice of two different GT4's for $20K over.
I was using available and authorized in conjunction with one another.

And yes I will expect more than that if I am to sell it, I don't see the issue with that?


Okay well I suggest if you don't want to pay over 30k you contact them and pay 20k over. If
Indeed you are in the market.


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