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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 06:37 PM
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I hope you are well, I have been reading Rennlist for quite some time since I started this quest on attempting to purchase a GT4 in the UK. I am seeing an example tomorrow, Official Porsche Centre supplied, hence comes with the 24m warranty. I have had a couple of phone conversations but see the car in person tomorrow. FYI this will be my very first 'sports car' ./ Porsche.

It has 8000 miles, 5 owners (is this a problem?), comes with the 24m warranty, which covers that risk I suppose that the car may develop any possible fault.
In respect to spec, Racing Yellow launch colour, black satin GT wheels, Sound Package Plus - non 918 bucket seats (which I think would be a little too harsh) as would be used as a weekend / daily.

Is there anything I should be looking out for or should question?:

1. I am to ask about the Rev analysis (what should I look for specifically, any numeric value?)
2. The 111 Point Porsche Check to see the proportion of 'ambers' / advisories listed, of which the salesperson claims zero but will evidence tomorrow.
3. One thing is that the car is sitting on what I can only assume are Porsche approved tyres, otherwise would have failed the 111 point check, Pirelli P-Zero's, not Pilot Sport Cup 2's.
4. I have asked if this car VIN was part of the 3rd gear transmission recall, it has indeed been replaced already - so that checks this off positively.
5. In respect to servicing, it had its 4 year major in February 2020 at the Official Porsche Dealer, this also seems reasonably positive.

Just wanted to ask, anything else I should be trying to identify about the car, anything to look out for in particular when I see the car tomorrow?

I suspect in terms of values, that this will hold its own regardless of the 718 coming on to the scene, production is clearly capped for the 15/16 production year, it is the original Cayman GT4 and should prove desirable as such over a 2-3 year period?

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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 08:01 PM
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I would look at the rev report but not be concerned with range 1 ignitions or a few range 2. I don't have an issue with the "Porsche approval" of the tires. My car came with Dunlops which wore out quickly and I replaced them with Michelin 4S which I find are a better street tire. I'm the original owner of my car which now has 14,500 miles and have had no issues other then the transmission which failed and was replaced. In my opinion the 718 GT4 does not offer much improvement over the original and won't depress its value.
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lehman
I would look at the rev report but not be concerned with range 1 ignitions or a few range 2. I don't have an issue with the "Porsche approval" of the tires. My car came with Dunlops which wore out quickly and I replaced them with Michelin 4S which I find are a better street tire. I'm the original owner of my car which now has 14,500 miles and have had no issues other then the transmission which failed and was replaced. In my opinion the 718 GT4 does not offer much improvement over the original and won't depress its value.
Thank you for your reply - I guess hunting for the 'perfect' spec is now outdated to a certain degree now that these cars are 4+ years in age. Yes, will opt for Cup Sport 2's / 4S once these P-Zero's are on their way out, which I hope is not too soon!

In respect to the rev report, do Porsche summarise the findings or am I to look specifically for as you mention range 1 ignitions or few range 2 - what do these symbolise / reflect, is the metric the number of ignitions for each I should be looking at? Is <10k miles considered low still on the grand scheme of things?
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 08:11 PM
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5 owners is not an issue. These cars were bought and sold often early on.

There will be range 1-6 on the report. 1-2 are ok. 3, I would look at how long ago they occurred. You should be able to look at the total operating hours on the report and compare it to the hours the last over rev in that range occurred.
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bxstr
5 owners is not an issue. These cars were bought and sold often early on.

There will be range 1-6 on the report. 1-2 are ok. 3, I would look at how long ago they occurred. You should be able to look at the total operating hours on the report and compare it to the hours the last over rev in that range occurred.
Thank you, < 10k miles seems reasonable considering this comes from an OPC and the respective warranty?

In terms of the total operating hours vs. hours the last over rev in that range occurred - what does this prove out? - Sorry for (I am assuming) simple question.
I trust that they will have the rev report as this makes up the 111 Point Porsche check?
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Old Jun 19, 2020 | 11:49 PM
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The presumption is that if the most recent rev-range violation was very recent, there could be damage that hasn’t shown up yet. If it was 9000 miles ago, you would consider it less important in making your decision, as if it was going to cause problems they should have already manifested.

Good luck!
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Old Jun 20, 2020 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by NoGaBiker
The presumption is that if the most recent rev-range violation was very recent, there could be damage that hasn’t shown up yet. If it was 9000 miles ago, you would consider it less important in making your decision, as if it was going to cause problems they should have already manifested.

Good luck!

hi please could you let me know your thoughts on the

attached rev report - 2 in rev range 3, at 121 hours, car has total hours of 483 hours.

whats opinion on rev range 1 and 2? This is deemed fine right? Comes with full 2 year Porsche warranty from OPC
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Old Jun 20, 2020 | 08:09 AM
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Racing Yellow and No LWBs?
This must be an very low price .... think about your resale; 5 owners and it ends up at a dealer tells you volumes

Drive the car and look for the slightest shifting problems. Over revs put a bunch of energy through the transmission
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Originally Posted by Perimeter
Racing Yellow and No LWBs?
This must be an very low price .... think about your resale; 5 owners and it ends up at a dealer tells you volumes

Drive the car and look for the slightest shifting problems. Over revs put a bunch of energy through the transmission
agreed but yes it is at a good price (negotiated) and future guaranteed value is only £10k below today’s list which I think is more than reasonable - ultimately happy to give back at that level if worst case scenario and no equity in the car
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Old Jun 20, 2020 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sjii92
hi please could you let me know your thoughts on the

attached rev report - 2 in rev range 3, at 121 hours, car has total hours of 483 hours.

whats opinion on rev range 1 and 2? This is deemed fine right? Comes with full 2 year Porsche warranty from OPC
That's a good report. If I remember correctly there are 3 ignitions per one revolution of the crankshaft. You can get a range 1 report simply by hitting the redline.
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Old Jun 20, 2020 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bill Lehman
That's a good report. If I remember correctly there are 3 ignitions per one revolution of the crankshaft. You can get a range 1 report simply by hitting the redline.

Thank you - sadly the OPC would not accept the offer (there were a few scuffs around the car and few things which made me revise my offer). On to the next I am sure - there is definitely some downward pressure on these cars it seems, seeing more and more pop up on Autotrader / OPC ….718 GT4 prices are softening a tad too, I think it is reasonable to await Winter to pick up a 'decent' bargain...

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