High Speed and Self control
07-23-2002, 08:15 PM
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I hate to disappoint Bins, but the more trackdays I do the more confident (artificial probably) I become the faster I drive on the road. Maybe I am a bit knackered on the way back from a trackday to be bothered to speed, but other than that its flat out everywhere.
I have a couple of tips for high speed motorway driving in the UK (I mean 140 mph plus).
1. If you join the motorway at 100 mph plus and there are no coppers in the rear view, make sure you stay at high speed as no following cop car will catch you if you are northwards of 110 mph.
2. Only speed on a section of motorway which you know well and have learn't whether or not cop cars are deployed to set up speed traps etc.
3. If a copper spots you in the distance from behind and ***** on his blues, increase speed to flat out and leave at the next exit-the chances are he'll never catch you/or have clocked your reg.(I've tried this and it worked for me).
4. I do condone high speed driving (but not on residential roads) and will probably kill myself and others in the process. (Steve Wall thought he better put his harness back on as we approached 170 mph rounding a bend on the Autoroute towards Calais. It was that Renault 5 in the inside lane doing about 50 which made for a bear like grip on the steering wheel).
I find it a real bore that in the 18 months I've owned my 993 not one person has tried to give me a good burn up on the road. Why is that?
Rocket
I have a couple of tips for high speed motorway driving in the UK (I mean 140 mph plus).
1. If you join the motorway at 100 mph plus and there are no coppers in the rear view, make sure you stay at high speed as no following cop car will catch you if you are northwards of 110 mph.
2. Only speed on a section of motorway which you know well and have learn't whether or not cop cars are deployed to set up speed traps etc.
3. If a copper spots you in the distance from behind and ***** on his blues, increase speed to flat out and leave at the next exit-the chances are he'll never catch you/or have clocked your reg.(I've tried this and it worked for me).
4. I do condone high speed driving (but not on residential roads) and will probably kill myself and others in the process. (Steve Wall thought he better put his harness back on as we approached 170 mph rounding a bend on the Autoroute towards Calais. It was that Renault 5 in the inside lane doing about 50 which made for a bear like grip on the steering wheel).
I find it a real bore that in the 18 months I've owned my 993 not one person has tried to give me a good burn up on the road. Why is that?
Rocket
07-24-2002, 04:26 AM
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agree the track route should get it out of yr system - i find i have an automatic speed limiter in the car that dictates top speed and rate of exceleration - its called the the wife - they are cheap to get and readily available but expensive to maintain. hever just means that when she's not with me the dark side comes out....
07-24-2002, 10:38 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Bins:
<strong>John, do you have more info on those 20 minute type sessions <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry Bins, my mail didn't read very clear.
What I meant to say was that most track days have different driver ability groups, which rotate in 20 minute sessions.
e.g
9:00am beginners
9:20am intermediates
9:40am nutters
10:00am beginners
etc
This gives you and the car a chance to cool down.
It also means that you only get 10-20 laps in a session, so any races that develop don't get too out of hand.
Of course, you can still come in at any time, and i have done this before now simply to get a free bit of track again (fed up with following a Nissan skyline around the bends, only to see him accelerate away up the straight until the next bend, when I'd catch up again...)
Some track days are ran as open pit events, which means you go in or out when you like, and the only limit is number of cars on track at a given time. You should still take time out once in a while though. I personally look for the quiet moments, so I get clear track to play with.
The advice from Steve (rocket) is good too, although a little extreme.
The one point that stands out though is to keep an eye in your rear mirror, and if you see a car keeping pace, or making on you, just ease up, and maybe let them go.
On average you should look in your rear veiw mirror at least every 7-9 seconds. It should be easy to keep a register of what is behind you, what you have passed etc.
As for getting zapped from the front with a speed gun, well, radar detector seems like the only option, except slowing down
Believe me, I'm no angel.
Some time ago I got a ticket for overtaking an unmarked car at close on three figures in my caterham.
Recently I also got a camera ticket for going a little too hot through some roadworks near Silverstone. Both of these could have been avoided, but I was having fun
Another thought - get a bike - then you can really go fast ! <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
Maybe see you next week at the pub meet ?
Cheers,
John.
<strong>John, do you have more info on those 20 minute type sessions <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
Sorry Bins, my mail didn't read very clear.
What I meant to say was that most track days have different driver ability groups, which rotate in 20 minute sessions.
e.g
9:00am beginners
9:20am intermediates
9:40am nutters
10:00am beginners
etc
This gives you and the car a chance to cool down.
It also means that you only get 10-20 laps in a session, so any races that develop don't get too out of hand.
Of course, you can still come in at any time, and i have done this before now simply to get a free bit of track again (fed up with following a Nissan skyline around the bends, only to see him accelerate away up the straight until the next bend, when I'd catch up again...)
Some track days are ran as open pit events, which means you go in or out when you like, and the only limit is number of cars on track at a given time. You should still take time out once in a while though. I personally look for the quiet moments, so I get clear track to play with.
The advice from Steve (rocket) is good too, although a little extreme.
The one point that stands out though is to keep an eye in your rear mirror, and if you see a car keeping pace, or making on you, just ease up, and maybe let them go.
On average you should look in your rear veiw mirror at least every 7-9 seconds. It should be easy to keep a register of what is behind you, what you have passed etc.
As for getting zapped from the front with a speed gun, well, radar detector seems like the only option, except slowing down
Believe me, I'm no angel.
Some time ago I got a ticket for overtaking an unmarked car at close on three figures in my caterham.
Recently I also got a camera ticket for going a little too hot through some roadworks near Silverstone. Both of these could have been avoided, but I was having fun
Another thought - get a bike - then you can really go fast ! <img src="graemlins/burnout.gif" border="0" alt="[burnout]" />
Maybe see you next week at the pub meet ?
Cheers,
John.
07-24-2002, 11:12 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Rocket:
<strong>
I find it a real bore that in the 18 months I've owned my 993 not one person has tried to give me a good burn up on the road. Why is that?
Rocket</strong><hr></blockquote>
If you take a look at your car from the outside, I think the answer is obvious.
<strong>
I find it a real bore that in the 18 months I've owned my 993 not one person has tried to give me a good burn up on the road. Why is that?
Rocket</strong><hr></blockquote>
If you take a look at your car from the outside, I think the answer is obvious.
07-29-2002, 01:39 AM
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i LOVE driving my car! i've often thought of the above issue of going fast. well, actually i've thougt about it *a lot*. because of my habits, i can't drive for a while due to my inability to properly acsertain know "when is when". but speed is only one aspect of the reason. i find that patience with other drivers sometimes has a lot to do with it (or patience in general). nontheless, i will most likely drive when i buy another one based on (c).
a. i haven't started doing DE event yet, but i am getting prepared to do them. i want to enjoy my ride and at the same time, not deal with anxiety or stress from the law all the time, everywhere.
b. i only drive a 944 (NA) that i can't get past 120 mph on 91 octane petrol. it's still stock and was bulit in 83.
c. while i don't/can't drive, i am trying to use the time as a good excuse to put the car up and have some fun with it. I will be modifying/replacing the suspension, fender/front spoiler replacement, perhaps exhaust/intake, completely removing the interior, rollbar installation, install race seat(s) and harness. I want to use it for primarily track use. it's not registered and may not be afterwards, but who knows. I was thinking about just getting another one and using that one as a daily car.
i find that i can agree with rocket. after doing autocross sessions, i am much more confident about my skills when it comes to getting to know the handling characteristics of my car; and ths feel ok going faster.
i have owned my car for a little over one year.
honestly, i need a lot more practice in an environment that is more supportive other than in jail, which fortunately is a place i don't have to go.
a. i haven't started doing DE event yet, but i am getting prepared to do them. i want to enjoy my ride and at the same time, not deal with anxiety or stress from the law all the time, everywhere.
b. i only drive a 944 (NA) that i can't get past 120 mph on 91 octane petrol. it's still stock and was bulit in 83.
c. while i don't/can't drive, i am trying to use the time as a good excuse to put the car up and have some fun with it. I will be modifying/replacing the suspension, fender/front spoiler replacement, perhaps exhaust/intake, completely removing the interior, rollbar installation, install race seat(s) and harness. I want to use it for primarily track use. it's not registered and may not be afterwards, but who knows. I was thinking about just getting another one and using that one as a daily car.
i find that i can agree with rocket. after doing autocross sessions, i am much more confident about my skills when it comes to getting to know the handling characteristics of my car; and ths feel ok going faster.
i have owned my car for a little over one year.
honestly, i need a lot more practice in an environment that is more supportive other than in jail, which fortunately is a place i don't have to go.
08-01-2002, 07:26 AM
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Burning Brakes
Do I know this problem....
Track days/slaloms help as you can develop a smug superior attitude : " go on Sonny, you can do 100+ down the high street and I won't compete, but if you were a real driver you'd meet me on the track...."
One other trick is to set yourself different goals - like try to get the fuel consumption down to 8 litres per 100 km (possible but incredibly boring) or keep repeating the mantra "the objective is to get there safe - not fast".
Actually I've found that when I want to keep my cool on a long run I get one of the talking books on cassette or CD. You'd be amazed how it takes the pressure off trying to go faster and faster.
If all else fails buy the damn Volvo !!!
Track days/slaloms help as you can develop a smug superior attitude : " go on Sonny, you can do 100+ down the high street and I won't compete, but if you were a real driver you'd meet me on the track...."
One other trick is to set yourself different goals - like try to get the fuel consumption down to 8 litres per 100 km (possible but incredibly boring) or keep repeating the mantra "the objective is to get there safe - not fast".
Actually I've found that when I want to keep my cool on a long run I get one of the talking books on cassette or CD. You'd be amazed how it takes the pressure off trying to go faster and faster.
If all else fails buy the damn Volvo !!!
08-01-2002, 09:50 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by Rocket:
I find it a real bore that in the 18 months I've owned my 993 not one person has tried to give me a good burn up on the road. Why is that?
Rocket[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Same goes for me, have had the car for almost 2 months only, so far no race and a lot of respect from other drivers <img src="graemlins/sleep.gif" border="0" alt="[sleep]" /> . I also own a BMW e39 M5, this one attract a lot of races <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" />
Bins - I also have the same worry about my driving habbit. I started by taking formula 3 driving lesson and after that I drove even faster. Now I will start to take the 964 Turbo 2 to the track with the local PC. Somehow I think the result will be the same. May be having kids would slow me down <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
I find it a real bore that in the 18 months I've owned my 993 not one person has tried to give me a good burn up on the road. Why is that?
Rocket[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Same goes for me, have had the car for almost 2 months only, so far no race and a lot of respect from other drivers <img src="graemlins/sleep.gif" border="0" alt="[sleep]" /> . I also own a BMW e39 M5, this one attract a lot of races <img src="graemlins/r.gif" border="0" alt="[king]" />
Bins - I also have the same worry about my driving habbit. I started by taking formula 3 driving lesson and after that I drove even faster. Now I will start to take the 964 Turbo 2 to the track with the local PC. Somehow I think the result will be the same. May be having kids would slow me down <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
