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Old 04-18-2004, 10:34 PM
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Default Porsche crest origination

First question
Did Porsche or Ferrari have the pony first

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Who designed it when
Old 04-19-2004, 01:55 AM
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Oh man..this came up before

I think Ferrari used it on his race cars first
Old 04-19-2004, 03:59 AM
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ferrari used it back in the 30s,

porsche has it because that the crest for the city of stuttguart (in english it means stud garden.. where horses were bred)

http://www.pca.org/sqa/crest.htm



by Terry Lovett, Porsche Club of Canberra, Australia





THE CREST: In 1951 Porsche was finalizing plans for its move from the war time sanctuary of Gmund back to Stuttgart. Importers and agents selling his product made it clear that customers wanted some sort of trademark or badge to identify their vehicles, which till then, only carried the word "Porsche" on the body work. In 1952, Professor Porsche had devised the basic design of the crest. Folklore has it that he sketched it on a serviette during a luncheon. Whether true or not, it was Messrs. Lepper and Riemspiess of the publicity and design studios who carefully finalized the design.

There are three components: the family name, of course, is positioned at the top, while the other two components reflect Porsche’s gratitude for the rebirth of the company in the Stuttgart area. The red and black bars with the antlers are from the coat of arms of the State of Wurttemberg, and the horse is from the coat of arms of Stuttgart, capital of Wurttemberg. The origins of Stuttgart developed from the royal patronage given in historical times to the area. A fine horse stud developed here. So (Stud Garden) Stutt Garten and Stuttgart.

The crest first appeared on a Porsche in 1953, but was limited to the interior of the car – the horn button. It was not till 1957 that the crest joined the work Porsche on the front bonnet of a 356 Coupe.

THE COLOR: Maroon or claret has appeared on the driver’s hand-books, service manuals and official letterheads since 1951. The choice of color was due to necessity rather than any romantic design consideration. After the second World War, colored inks were in very short supply and colored papers were only just being reintroduced. It was in this environment that the first handbooks were produced. To maintain an attractive design within the shortages of the period, black ink and colored stock was chosen. The small printer Glauner happened to have some colored paper – maroon. It was a case of no alternatives. No one could imagine the precedent that this would set. Today, all official stationery, driver’s wallets and even the exterior color schemes of the new factory building in Stuttgart utilize bold stripes of these colors.

THE SCRIPT: The Porsche script has undergone a number of evolutionary phases since it appeared on Porsche No. 1 at Gmund in June 1948.

From the outset, the square shape of the letters was apparent. Initially, letters were placed individually in a curved pattern o the front of the cars. In 1950, a horizontal underlining bar joined all the letters into a single unit. In 1952, the letters became more squat (extended). This design remained unchanged for the remaining life of the 356 series. In 1963-64, the 911 came on the scene. The word Porsche reverted to a series of individual letters of a thinner and more open shape. In 1974, the metal letters were no longer used. Instead they were depicted on the reflective panel separating the tail lights of the 911. To end, I quote Tony Lapine, head of styling studio: "More than any emblem or logo, Professor Porsche himself represents the bond between tradition and progressive technology that makes Porsche such a unique company."



and according to rjt993 (the greatest mind for porsche history that i know)

"In that meeting between Max Hoffman and Ferry Porsche, Max took a Cadillac emblem to show an example of a "crest". The Caddy emblem of the 40s and early 50s had a crown above the emblem, but you can clearly see a resemblance to the Porsche crest that was penciled at that lunch meeting between Max and Ferry!"
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I had read most of this previously. Maybe one of out German listers could answer another question? Are there any meanings behind the number of stripes, or the number of dear antlers?

Is there a German word for Stag? (As in male dear).
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the background all has to do with the crest for the provence fo wurtenburg.. no other special things with number or anything..
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Sorry about the repost?> at any rate , i appreciate the info thanks alot
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The Ferrari crest comes from a family friend that left an impression on Enzo. I think the friend was in the military (air force maybe?) and that sheild was their insignia. Enzo decieded Ferrari would use it as a tribute.

That's all just off the top of my head, so it might not be exactly right, but it's something like that.



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