After years of using and loving AIM (just when I am getting "good" at it, The online Webinars are great...) I need to learn Motec which came with my new to me Cayman Clubsport.

Any tips on where best to start? Can I import some of my AIM data into Motec or vice versa?

Thanks,

Mark

 

Mark, I think you’ll find MoTeC to be more intuitive, plus now that you know what you want to look at, and how you want to look at it), you’ll find that MoTeC offers more configurability in the regard.

Since MoTeC is (and has for the last decade and a half) the preferred sim racer’s analysis platform, there are some excellent tutorials on navigating and arranging the measures there.

I’ll post up some in due course, but PM me your email and I’ll get those to you, along with simple downloading tutorials, to get you up to speed fast.

 

Chris Brown's classes are awesome to get you up and running quickly. With the pandemic, I'm sure the in person classes are on hold. He does remote learning and is terrific at it. His website is www.squigglylines.com If you don't know Chris, he was a MoTeC employee, did their dealer training for years and years (and I think still does some!) and is most often found in IMSA and SRO paddocks. He's one of the great guys in racing.

 

You want to start with i2. download some data, and get your i2 setup. When you open i2, it will give you a default set of tabs/channels in the "Circuit" view. If you've used AIM, I think you'll find this more intuitive and easy after the initial learning curve. Then you can move on to the Dash Manager software, where you can change the layout/info on the dash. If you get more advanced, you can use display creator to build a completely custom look for your dash; this is a $500 option on the dash but is very powerful.

Assume you have a C125?

 

Thanks all. Yes, a C125.

Mark

 

The C125 is a great little dash. It's not quite at the same level as my C187, but it supports most things really well. Here's a few things I've config'd into mine for use in endurance racing.

1. Installed buttons for a pit stop watch
2. Automatically switch to a special pit stop screen when the stop watch is started
3. Automatically switch back to the race screen when the watch is stopped.
4. Reset fast lap, number of laps, stint time, etc when the watch is stopped
5. Change the color of the predictive lap time t be red/green if it is outside the desired lap pace (too slow or too fast)

To give you some idea of what the Display Creator is capable of, check out this guy https://www.instagram.com/motec.dash.design/

 

In my experience, the C125 (Club series MoTeC) is more than enough for a majority of folks (I/O, internal maths and number of CAN connections), and is the supplied setup for every 981 GT4 CS that has raced in the Competent (Trophy West and current), Pirelli (Trophy East) and PWC series, so quite common.

As a MoTeC dealer for a decade to primarily club level drivers and teams, I sell ten C125's for every one C18X (Pro series MoTeC) dash, simply because so much info comes over the VCI of modern cars and most don't need the advanced processing power for on-board calculations on the fly. Most teams I sell to rarely get more than the Club level display loggers simply because the hardware they're monitoring doesn't benefit from the additional power and control of the Pro level display loggers.

The CAN template Joe and Chris worked together to supply for THIS application, in exchange for supporting each series event, is quite powerful and very complete. It ties into two different busses on the car.

The Display Creator unlock option ($600, all I need is your serial number) is interesting, but few people require more than the existing and wide variety of display template customization.

38D, you've done some great things with your application and really do a lot to more fully utilize the great tools you have.

 

Another vote for more information on this topic.

Purchased a SpecE46 that came with a C185. Little over-kill for a car at this level, but it is what it is. Getting a V2 camera mounted in the off season.

 

If you’d like a new V2 from an authorized dealer who can help you install it, configure it and learn how to use it, please let me know. I could offer a slight RL discount coupon applicable to merchandise I sell, which is only AiM, MoTeC, VBOX, Race Keeper and a few others.

The C185/187/1812 is the replacement for the top level professional (MoTeC’s definition) ADL2/ADL3 display loggers. The C125/127/C1212 is the replacement for the club level SDL/SDL3/CDL3 display loggers.

In some applications, the additional onboard controllers and multiplicity of CAN network connections, as well as additional memory and processing power requires the use of the top level loggers for some specific applications, so it has not much to do with how much of the analysis capability the driver/coach actually uses.

Many older cars that used the 79-pin Autosport connector for the ADL2/ADL3 can be relatively simply updated to the C18X line. Many newer installations that don’t require transmission control, get most (or all) of their sensor information from sensors already used in the cars operation can use the C12X line.

While Joe and Chris are terrific resources, they are primarily focused on pro series and the significant, loyal team base built up over years in this business. They are who you call when you really can’t figure something out, require specialist information on a specific template or need serious troubleshooting help.

Let’s see what I can come up with that I can share for simple, basic resources for the many folks who are now using these systems in a club level setting.

 

Everybody learns differently but personally I've had most success by just playing around in any new analysis SW until I'm comfortable. Tutorials and training are helpful if you're really stuck or for advanced training, but I wouldn't recommend starting there. Also, if I recall the help section in Motec is pretty good if you do get stuck. So, as others have suggested I would download i2 if you haven't already, then download some data from your car and start playing around.

If you're really into data and will be analyzing on the regular then these stickers are handy to have placed on your laptop next to your touchpad until you have them memorized:
https://www.milspecwiring.com/i2-HOT...AL_p_1135.html

Lastly, you'll be very impressed with i2 if you're coming from AIM! Granted I don't have extensive experience with AIM, I did download it once to see exactly what data the scrutineering officials in tech were looking at in the series we raced in....I felt like I walked into a time machine and woke up in the 80's.... Motec is far superior and intuitive, so prepare to be pleasantly surprised as you start using it.

 

Interesting perspective. Chris said the opposite when we were talking last week - he really likes helping amateur racers and people outside the pro ranks. Joe certainly has the high end clientele and has worked through all of the professional paddocks, but I know he has helped a lot of people I've sent his way. Heck, even Phil at www.racebeat.net is into helping people of all levels (Phil is another ex-MoTeC guy and SUPER smart). Now, there are some dealers out there that only want the highest of high end, but I would not say that is Joe and Chris.

 

Nice, my SpecE46 has a C127.

 

I will say that the way the buttons can be configured is of tremendous value and utility in MoTeC installations.

Some of those dashes are so "arty" that they're tough to read, at speed.

 

Button config is one of the more useful things you can do in motec. Short press, long press, pressing multiple buttons....you can do a lot with just or 2 buttons!

Totally agree on some of the artsy dashes. Here's what I did for our C125. There are other screens, but these are the main ones.

 

Well, shoot. I like what you've done here - may need to reconsider settling for good enough without display creator.
With display creator, can you add screens? I'm using race, qual, and warmup/de - would be nice to have another.