I have a Motec ADL2 I inherited from the Cup car I am parting out. What I know about the unit is it has Pro Extensions, GPS and Enduro backlit.

I have been trying to sell it.

I have started thinking about putting it in my 996C2. I want to be able to have a ton of data to review both timing and particularly with regards to data logging the engine vitals.

I had been leaning towards putting an Aim MXL2 in the car over the winter, but since I have the Motec oh-hand, before I sold it I thought I would seek the opinions of the people who actually know something about this kind of stuff - I admittedly do not.

Questions:

Installation cost / complexity (I have the harness from the cup car)
Support - I am in New England
User friendliness

I am new to track work, but I love it and I love data.

I planned to only spend this money once and want something with a lot more capability than I presently need to be able to grow into.

Thanks !

 

If you have the ADL2, Pro Analysis enabled, GPS and the harness, it’s a NO-brainer. And, I have been a dealer for both MoTeC and AIM for a decade.

There’s a reason why these systems were in almost all the pro-built cars.While there was no system in the 996 GT3 Cup originally, and some teams installed both the MoTeC and the AIM MXL Pista, the top level teams installed MoTeC, especially after Joe Hullett developed the PnP kits for the 997 GT3 Cup cars for the IMSA series.

You’ll find the MoTeC to be extraordinarily configurable and powerful. There are thousands of ADL2’s still in daily use worldwide and hundreds of them that I know of in North America.

The quality of the data is no better in the current offerings, and to duplicate this now with a C185, the color display equivalent, GPS, logging and Pro Analysis, but not including the harness, would be $6K+

There is not a great deal of embedded information present in that old a car, so with either system, you will need to use analog sensors. Check to see if it has I/O enabled, which allows you to add conventional analog sensors like brake pressure, steering angle and additional chassis and engine sensors. Easy to check and likely if you have those labeled connectors on the harness listing some of them. May still be on your car.

If you are as serious about data as you say you are, this is the ne plus ultra to not only log it, but look at it in infinitely variable ways, to more quickly assimilate and make sense out of it.

If you want to go AIM, I can help with that, too. But that would not be my recommendation. As a dealer, a driver or as a coach.

 

The MoTeC is a great system. If you want to check with Joe, who may have put it in that car, his website is https://www.digitalcompetitionsystems.com/. He has also done most of the Smartycam setups in those cars as well. Great guy. If you want to see him, he did an AiM webinar recently

 

Another awesome resource to learn MoTeC is Chris Brown. Author of "Making Sense of Squiggly Lines" and prior MoTeC employee. He does some great traveling classes (in normal times) and some online offerings as well. When IMSA is at Lime Rock, he usually has a class in CT. http://squigglylines.com/training/

 

Thanks for your opinions and the info.

I will investigate further what sensors I have wired in my harness.

And thank you for the contacts, I will continue the research and reach out to some of the folks referenced after the holiday.

I hope both of you guys and your families are having a nice Thanksgiving.

Jason

 

So I have the harness out, Sakata Motorsport SN 1204-23-J/4588.

Harness 1
Dimmer
Backlight
SLM
Can Term
Switches
ADL2
Brake Pressure X2
GPS-L10 with module
LAN
ADL PWR Input

Harness 2
Accel
Steering
Backlight
M AXL 5G (Accelerometer ?)

Is this a good start ? What else should I be looking for ?

Thanks so much in advance !

 

That will get you a long, long way.

It’s likely (but not guaranteed) that the brake pressure sensors are still in the car.

PM me for a local resource.

Once it’s up and running, it’ll give you all you need.

 

the front brake sensor got lost due to a small battery short/ brakeline fire and I dont think it had a rear sensor. I would have to install the motec software to review a data file

 

That explains that, thanks for the confirmation Marc, I'll add them to the list.

 

Hate to hijack....but here goes. just a quick question for those of you in the know. just removed this from my 996 cup, replaced with an M127. this logger still has some power, just no display (sold the MDD that was attached). any idea of potential value? i'd like to make a few bucks, but also like to get it into the hands of someone who could use it for a good deal (for them). reply by PM if you prefer. thanks for your time. now to return you to your regularly scheduled programming.....

 

That appears to be an original ADL+MDD system used in the Supercup series. Personally, I’d hold on to it as it’s not worth much without tw MDD. I bought one for my car, 2003 Supercup championship car driven by Frank Stippler, just so i could return it to “as raced”. That’s really the only market for these. Other than possibly a cheap AER or Champcar type team.

 

Looking for a confirmation the below are the can channels available for monitoring from the stock ECU with the Motec.

(I know Aim info, trying to figure out the sensor lineup I’m going to need to buy for the data I’m looking for and that starts with knowing what is available from stock.)

Thanks in advance.

 

Yes, those channels have been identified and "decoded" by AiM connecting to the blue and grey twisted pair between the ECU and the instrument cluster. Only good for 2002-2005 model 996 cars, not 1998-2001 cars.

 

My car is an 03.

As you mention those channels have been "decoded" by Aim specifically, shall I take that as the Motec ADL2 will need configuration to pick those CAN channels up ?

Thank you.

 

Yes, the structure of the messaging is different between the two manufacturers.

I had completely missed it in your original post that this was a system originally in a race car (MarcD147) and going into a street car (yours). For some reason, I had read it that it was a system taken out of the car it was going back in. Sorry.

Still can be done. Also, the 996 cup info should be similar enough so you can plug and play to get RPM, throttle, water temp, at least. It only begins to vary later as the race cars and street cars continued to diverge with the 997.