MoeMistry

I mentioned NXT doesn't last because it contains poor quality ingredients compared to other synthetics like Einzette, Klasse, etc. The silicone part is another issue dealing with prolonged use. I understand there are different silicones and their molecular size plays a role in how harmful they are. I'm just saying if you are going the synthetic route, use a good quality synthetic that probably won't cost much more. The best way I can put it is you going to a doctor. He prescribes you Nexium and you say "doc, I read this nice article about Pepto Bismol, I think I'm going to use it instead". I'm just saying take advice from a pro and not the manufacturer. I have to be careful here though. You want to take advice from a pro that isn't biased towards a product because he's got an in with the manufacturer. As I mentioned before, my company could be 10 times bigger than what it is right now if I only took some of the offers I've been given by the "big boys". I'd rather grow slowly but know my clients will always trust in me and my work.

MoeMistry

It's my pleasure. I'm looking out for enthusiasts like you because unless you buy every wax and polish and product out there, how do you know what's the best for your application? You simply want to enjoy caring for your car correctly and efficiently; that's the advice we try and give. Thanks for the support.

RogueM3

Anthony,

Would you mind telling me:

1) Which Compound you Carry?
2) Which Polish you Carry?
3) Which "One-Step" Wax you Carry?

I assume the "spray-wax" you carry is OCW, and I also am going to assume your compound and polish of choice are Optimum Compound and Optimum Polish. Finally, is the "one-step" Optimum Poli-Seal? However, I just wanted to make sure that my assumptions are correct and Im not just thinking that all your work (which is breath-taking) is done with the products that you arent really using.

Thanks very much in advance.

-Richard

Anthony Orosco

Hey Richard,

Your assumptions are correct!

The new Poli-Seal is just amazing stuff. I have been using it now for some time as I tested the stuff out and it continues to impress me each time I use it.

If you're looking for a nice "maintenance" wax then OCW is perfect but if you have some light marring and wish to remove it (not hide it) the Poli-seal is really causing a stir among pros and enthusiasts alike as their "go to" product.

So a typical detail may go like this:

Initial correction step - Optimum Polish
Sealing and secondary polish step - PoliSeal
Maintaining after every other wash - OCW

Then about every 6 months go over the paint with the PoliSeal again.

Anthony

PS - Thank you for the compliments regarding my work.

TOGWT

MoeMistry Quote: I have a vested interest in making sure my clients are educated…..” Well said

There are many silicones but the one that effect most detailers are-

a) Water based dressings- Polydimethylsiloxane (PDS) is usually a milky-white liquid that does not contain silicone oils, petroleum distillates, waxes, or solvents that can harm rubber and / or vinyl over time. Most water-based dressings use a combination of natural oils to offer a non-greasy, satin finish. Most of these products also contain UV blocking agents to help keep tyres / vinyl from cracking, fading and hardening(Zaino Z-16Z-16 Perfect Tire Gloss™ is a non-oily, rubber and exterior vinyl finishing treatment) Most, if not all water-based dressings are biodegradable whereas Silicone is not.

b) Silicone-based dressings- usually a clear greasy liquid that contains petroleum distillates (Dimethal Silicones (DMS) they are migratory, entering into the substrate (resin binder system) and being oil they will slowly break down the polymer substrate which is also derived from hydrocarbons. They release the plastizers from vinyl, rubber and paint; causing them to evaporate out of the substrate, leaving behind a dry inflexible surface.

Just a dumb architect, so I question everything

mwc951

I just tried Meguiar's after many years of using Griot's products. I thought I had myself convinced to trying Zaino, but spent a bunch of time over on Meguiar's Forum doing research, ended up trying their products. The Meguiar's user forum is extremely active and proved to be an outstanding resource(for me) and IMHO is an OUTSTANDING resource!!! Anyway........
Here's my car after 1-coat of Scratch-X, 1-coat of Deep Cyrstal Polish(both applied w/DA), 2-coats of NXT, topped with 1-coat of Deep Crystal Carnauba(applied w/DA). I'm happy with it, much more gloss than w/Griot's. Looks richer & deeper too. Just my 2 cents.....

cdodkin

mwc951, you're in trouble now!

NXT is a banned substance on this forum it seems - you are destroying the paintwork on your car

Nice shine though

Chris.

mwc951

Thanks Chris. I'll risk it with the NXT. I know what you mean about being banned!
I certainly feel like a proletariat over on the 951 board. It's starting to feel the same over here.

ehall

amen to the comment about the 951 board.
Let me add about this thread...
There are numerous ways to skin a cat. Healthy debate isn't a problem, and should be encouraged. The top line car care products are somewhat more expensive than off the shelf brands and are also less accessable to the regular guy, therefore off the shelf brands will get used and questions will get asked etc. That's what the forum is for, obviously.
I for one am awfully thankful to the experts that use their valuable time here, for free I might add, to give us the professional's take on the actual, rather than marketed, quality of various products.
At the end of the day, if you ask a question, you will get an answer, or even many, but its your car and your cash. If one chooses to ignore one source for another, there is no room for blame on anyone but the end user. It seems to me that lots of different people are having lots of success with an almost unlimited combo of products...and that's really informative to everyone. Thanks for keeping this board "all growed up". It's refreshing.

MoeMistry

Leave to an architecht to answer detailing questions Thank you very much for that input. I just learned some information to pass along. My technical side comes from the fact I graduated with an accounting degree and should have been a CPA. That why I'm the most **** and technical SOB out there. I had a client show me his new wheels on Saturday and my response " those wheels look amazing. Did you forget the tire dressing?". I guess it goes with the territory.

MoeMistry

NICELY SAID!!!!!

MoeMistry

Your car does look good. Do whatever works for you

TOGWT

Justadumbarchitect-my backround; car detailing (semi-professional)five decades, Concours show judge (Jaguars) ten years, writing car care (detailing) product application instructions approx five years, and writing a detailing A-Z four years. Irelevent quals Architectural Engineer, Chemical Engineer, 30 years Oil & gas industry


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TOGWT

A clear coat is not armor plating, a polyurethane paint (high solid clear coats) can absorb moisture; as water molecules are smaller than a cross-linked clear coats molecule. So be careful of the contents in car wash concentrates, polishes, sealant and waxes (i.e. low pH acids, high pH alkaline, Dimethal (DMS) silicones, solvents that contain butyl, heptanes, xylene or hydrocarbon aliphatic solvents.

AndyK

So, would this Optimum Poli-Seal replace my two-step process of:

1) 3M Imperial Glaze
2) Rejex

??