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Im not sure if you have read, but 20 years ago the Cayenne saved Porsche so you can still buy a 911 today. It’s true that 911 pricing has gone through the roof but dropping demand in China has impacted Porsche’s business model. I’m hoping the Cayenne EV invigorates interest and improves Porsche’s bottom line so we can continue to buy 911s.Originally Posted by imahobo
I am not an EV opponent, I have a Taycan Turbo GT. But I wouldn't drive this Tesla lookalike if they gave it to me. I'll keep my Cayenne Turbo GT and browse other brands when it is time to update. Look at the Porsche stock price over the last two years - it speaks volumes. It used to be an enthusiast's brand. Now, between the Bic shifter, styling, interior quality and software lock down, it's become a more homogenized mass market line. This is unfortunate for long-time advocates. The fact that there's a lengthy wait for a 992.2 TTS, which has doubled in price in 10 years, tells you what people want... the original cars.
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I recently sat in a new Cayenne and was shocked at how cheap it felt compared to my 2020 Turbo S. Plastic everywhere.Originally Posted by mattsrs
interior is only nice in the photos. In person, I bet everything feels cheap and plastici no matter how much you option it. We had a fully loaded Macan EV and it felt like a cheap toy inside. I bet Cayenne EV is going this direction too. Even the refreshed Cayenne is not as solid as pre-2024 Cayennes so their direction is clear. They think they can fool people by adding more screens and tech gimmicks while cutting corners on the luxurious feel of the interior
This is why Porsche is struggling and I blame that bonehead CFO and his stupid "Road to 20%". Porsche buyers want true luxury cars not plastic filled boxes that compete with Lexus and Infiniti.
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This is why Porsche is struggling and I blame that bonehead CFO and his stupid "Road to 20%". Porsche buyers want true luxury cars not plastic filled boxes that compete with Lexus and Infiniti.
https://www.autoevolution.com/news/s...-t-261199.htmlOriginally Posted by Mr_Marty
I recently sat in a new Cayenne and was shocked at how cheap it felt compared to my 2020 Turbo S. Plastic everywhere.This is why Porsche is struggling and I blame that bonehead CFO and his stupid "Road to 20%". Porsche buyers want true luxury cars not plastic filled boxes that compete with Lexus and Infiniti.
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Don't expect too much, IMO. Originally Posted by jo2134
Now that this is out of the way I’m eagerly waiting to see the 2027 refresh ICE models which I’ll replace my 24’ S with
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You see how the Macan progressed? And the Panamaera? Same playbook. The '24 refresh was already the "big" update. Wasaaayyy more than a .2 because Porsche knew it was coming. The .3 is going to be more like a typical .2 upgrade.
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The "upcoming" gas models gonna look same as the current gas models.You see how the Macan progressed? And the Panamaera? Same playbook. The '24 refresh was already the "big" update. Wasaaayyy more than a .2 because Porsche knew it was coming. The .3 is going to be more like a typical .2 upgrade.
$201k+ with all bells & whistles
If we ever get one I’d wait for the coupe.
Also: no way to match, even approximately, the dark SPK “moonlight blue” paint we have — which I love.
Not too fond of grill or overall styling on this either.
So… no hurry on this one … love the car we have…
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Here are the latest confirmations and leaks regarding a coupe (sloping-roof) version of the Porsche Cayenne Electric:
✅ What Porsche officially says
In the Q&A section on Porsche’s own site, under “Porsche Cayenne Electric – Questions & Answers”, it states:
“A Coupé variant will follow during 2026, with further derivatives also in development.”
Thus, Porsche is officially indicating that a coupe-style version is planned (i.e., a “Coupé” body shape) and that it will come after the initial SUV body version.
In the launch/new-car announcement for the Cayenne Electric, Porsche emphasises it as an all-electric SUV variant. No mention there of an immediate coupe version at launch.
🔍 What media/leaks reveal
A spy-photo article by Car and Driver suggests that prototypes of a “Cayenne Coupe EV” (i.e., the electric Cayenne in a sloped-roof body) were seen in Germany, camouflaged, showing a more “streamlined” roofline compared to the standard body.
This suggests that development of the coupe form is already underway and not far off.
📝 My summary / timeline
The initial release of the Cayenne Electric (the standard SUV body) is already confirmed (world premiere 19 Nov 2025) for model-year 2026.
The coupe variant will not be at the same time as the initial launch. It is slated to follow in 2026 (which likely means model-year 2027 depending region and production ramp) based on Porsche’s Q&A.
If you want the coupe shape specifically, you should plan for a slight delay or ask your local dealer about region-specific timing.
Keep in mind: “Coupé” in this context likely means the sloped-roof variant (as with previous Cayenne Coupé models), but it is still an SUV in footprint—it’s not a 2-door sports car.
If we ever get one I’d wait for the coupe.
Also: no way to match, even approximately, the dark SPK “moonlight blue” paint we have — which I love.
Not too fond of grill or overall styling on this either.
So… no hurry on this one … love the car we have…
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Here are the latest confirmations and leaks regarding a coupe (sloping-roof) version of the Porsche Cayenne Electric:
✅ What Porsche officially says
In the Q&A section on Porsche’s own site, under “Porsche Cayenne Electric – Questions & Answers”, it states:
“A Coupé variant will follow during 2026, with further derivatives also in development.”
Thus, Porsche is officially indicating that a coupe-style version is planned (i.e., a “Coupé” body shape) and that it will come after the initial SUV body version.
In the launch/new-car announcement for the Cayenne Electric, Porsche emphasises it as an all-electric SUV variant. No mention there of an immediate coupe version at launch.
🔍 What media/leaks reveal
A spy-photo article by Car and Driver suggests that prototypes of a “Cayenne Coupe EV” (i.e., the electric Cayenne in a sloped-roof body) were seen in Germany, camouflaged, showing a more “streamlined” roofline compared to the standard body.
This suggests that development of the coupe form is already underway and not far off.
📝 My summary / timeline
The initial release of the Cayenne Electric (the standard SUV body) is already confirmed (world premiere 19 Nov 2025) for model-year 2026.
The coupe variant will not be at the same time as the initial launch. It is slated to follow in 2026 (which likely means model-year 2027 depending region and production ramp) based on Porsche’s Q&A.
If you want the coupe shape specifically, you should plan for a slight delay or ask your local dealer about region-specific timing.
Keep in mind: “Coupé” in this context likely means the sloped-roof variant (as with previous Cayenne Coupé models), but it is still an SUV in footprint—it’s not a 2-door sports car.
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I watched the Autogefuhl video as well as the Out of Spec and the Auto Buyer's Guide videos last night. IMO, those are the only ones worth watching (although I always enjoy MKBHD's take as a non-automotive reviewer but tech forward auto enthusiast. He owns a 992.1 Turbo S. Haven't watched his video yet).
My thoughts are: The styling is....going to depend on how it looks in person. In video an photo I see too much Model 3 / Y in the front end and the rear end with that plastic ribbing looks hideous and dumpy. It's clearly lower and looks visually wider than the current E3 Cayenne...it was literally the first thing my wife said.
Tech wise, I think Porsche is going to be pretty much toward the top of the class. I'm not sure about power density for the base model; would like to see how an S version gets spicier. The Turbo is just ludicrous overkill and pricing to match. But the range / efficiency is pretty damn good and the charging is otherworldly. Easily the best of any EV not by a Chinese manufacturer (and not sure how their charging will last over time / destroy the batteries). This car should basically put paid issues with range, even when towing, or faced with cold weather.
Kyle from OOS is a complete EV nerd and he reveals that this really is a driver's EV. Things like showing the charging requested by the vehicle vs. what the station can provide, intelligent route planning and preconditioning, etc. These are SDV's and this software in the Cayenne is fast and up to the task.
Weight wise it's not awful. It's 300 lbs heavier than my Cayenne PHEV. Considering it has like 80 more kWH of battery, not too bad, although I do have a V6 on board.
The article Dave posted on the Porsche Pricing Paradox (PPP I will call it) is illuminating and it will be interesting to see how it shakes out under the new CEO. Porsche has backtracked on the aggressiveness of the EV plan but not abandoning it completely and it will be illuminating to see how they try to stem the absolute bloodbath of the EV residuals. I would also like to see if this EV Cayenne follows the "cheapening" felt in the '24 and up refresh or is more in line with the pre-refresh E3's.
Can't wait to see one in person and drive one. But for sure I would never buy one...only lease. But that's also my take on ANY EV at the moment. And really something faced by the market as a whole. EV's are clearly on a very steep development curve compared to ICE which means their depreciation is much worse.
My thoughts are: The styling is....going to depend on how it looks in person. In video an photo I see too much Model 3 / Y in the front end and the rear end with that plastic ribbing looks hideous and dumpy. It's clearly lower and looks visually wider than the current E3 Cayenne...it was literally the first thing my wife said.
Tech wise, I think Porsche is going to be pretty much toward the top of the class. I'm not sure about power density for the base model; would like to see how an S version gets spicier. The Turbo is just ludicrous overkill and pricing to match. But the range / efficiency is pretty damn good and the charging is otherworldly. Easily the best of any EV not by a Chinese manufacturer (and not sure how their charging will last over time / destroy the batteries). This car should basically put paid issues with range, even when towing, or faced with cold weather.
Kyle from OOS is a complete EV nerd and he reveals that this really is a driver's EV. Things like showing the charging requested by the vehicle vs. what the station can provide, intelligent route planning and preconditioning, etc. These are SDV's and this software in the Cayenne is fast and up to the task.
Weight wise it's not awful. It's 300 lbs heavier than my Cayenne PHEV. Considering it has like 80 more kWH of battery, not too bad, although I do have a V6 on board.
The article Dave posted on the Porsche Pricing Paradox (PPP I will call it) is illuminating and it will be interesting to see how it shakes out under the new CEO. Porsche has backtracked on the aggressiveness of the EV plan but not abandoning it completely and it will be illuminating to see how they try to stem the absolute bloodbath of the EV residuals. I would also like to see if this EV Cayenne follows the "cheapening" felt in the '24 and up refresh or is more in line with the pre-refresh E3's.
Can't wait to see one in person and drive one. But for sure I would never buy one...only lease. But that's also my take on ANY EV at the moment. And really something faced by the market as a whole. EV's are clearly on a very steep development curve compared to ICE which means their depreciation is much worse.
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I'm not so sure. The article states: "What makes this moment particularly strange is that Porsche has never been more profitable, more influential, or more confident in its own branding."Originally Posted by Salj
That is an incredibly insightful analysis!
But that is not accurate. From some financial reporting I found:
- Q3 Operating Loss: Porsche reported an operating loss of €967 million in Q3 2025, a dramatic turnaround from a profit of €974 million in the same period in 2024.
- 9-Month Profit Collapse: For the first nine months of the year (9M 2025), operating profit collapsed by 99% to just €40 million, down from over €4 billion a year earlier.
1. Strategic Realignment: Extraordinary costs of roughly €3.1 billion for the full year, mainly tied to scaling back its aggressive EV strategy (including scrapping in-house battery production).
2. U.S. Import Tariffs: Mounting tariffs are estimated to cost the company a direct hit of around €700 million in 2025.
3. China Slowdown: Sales in the key Chinese market were down 26% in the first nine months due to intense competition and challenging economic conditions
No question the EV investment is not paying off at this time, but this is no different than other manufacturers (including Tesla) that have been losing money as shoppers slowly transition to EV models. But I wonder what Porsche was to do? Stick with an entirely ICE lineup as competitors (including those in the important China market) add EVs to their lineups? How would Porsche ever catch up?
I think the administration change has poured cold water on the transition to EVs with the elimination of subsidies and the drive to lower the price of gas.
So, Porsche will pivot back to more ICE models (Macan, new Boxster) and slow down it's march to EV models, but I think the current pricing is going to be a significant barrier to higher sales. While the upper crust may applaud the move (higher prices) so they see fewer 911s driving down the road, making their cars more "exclusive", that might mean that Porsche will continue to do poorly even though it throttles back its EV plans.
As I posted above, comparing a Cayenne S to a base Cayenne EV, shows that a buyer will actually pay less (fuel cost in) for a cayenne EV after 4 years than a Cayenne S and will have better performance. if you have charging infrastructure in your area (or where you travel), I don't see the Cayenne EV pricing as a bar to purchasing one.
It is interesting to look at Porsche EV sales Q1 2024 to Q1 2025; In Q1 2024 EV sales accounted for less than 6% of vehicle sales. In Q1 2025, EVs comprised 23% of vehicle sales (largely as a result of Macan EV sales. While that is a global number, US sales are a significant part of Porsche sales. I think the decision to move towards EVs was a solid decision on Porsche's part. In any event, you can still buy every model in an ICE version and Porsche is well positioned for the future, which no doubtably will be EV biased (considering what is going on in the automotive world).
That's my $0.02 worth.
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If we ever get one I’d wait for the coupe.
Also: no way to match, even approximately, the dark SPK “moonlight blue” paint we have — which I love.
Not too fond of grill or overall styling on this either.
So… no hurry on this one … love the car we have…
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ugh, why are we posting LLM slop?Originally Posted by FmrMacanOwner
$201k+ with all bells & whistlesIf we ever get one I’d wait for the coupe.
Also: no way to match, even approximately, the dark SPK “moonlight blue” paint we have — which I love.
Not too fond of grill or overall styling on this either.
So… no hurry on this one … love the car we have…
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Agreed. Originally Posted by asellus
ugh, why are we posting LLM slop?
Current owner of a 25 hybrid S, and a 26 Macan Turbo electric (incoming to replace our macan 4 electric).
Overall I don't think it's too bad, I have a couple of comments from the configurator.
1. wheels - anyone notice the extra beefiness where the rims meet the spokes? I can't tell if its for aerodynamics or weight, but it's not very attactive.
2. horizontal blades to either side of license plate cutout. Our Macan has these, and I think it should be required that every car designer is obligated to detail that car in their driveway before it goes to production. Those things suck to clean.
3. rear side blades - they don't help the cars looks at all. They also worry me when it gets cold and slushy in Colorado - this, like auto retracting side mirrors will be an issue. would be cool if you could spec it like non turbo electric, which looks better.
4. looks like they added a flying buttress over the main dash, which is different that both my current cars. I really liked how they did it in current car, hope it keeps the same feel.
Apparently it will have a 400 mile range if the auto mags are correct. It's at a point where I could go full electric for my road trip car.
Overall I don't think it's too bad, I have a couple of comments from the configurator.
1. wheels - anyone notice the extra beefiness where the rims meet the spokes? I can't tell if its for aerodynamics or weight, but it's not very attactive.
2. horizontal blades to either side of license plate cutout. Our Macan has these, and I think it should be required that every car designer is obligated to detail that car in their driveway before it goes to production. Those things suck to clean.
3. rear side blades - they don't help the cars looks at all. They also worry me when it gets cold and slushy in Colorado - this, like auto retracting side mirrors will be an issue. would be cool if you could spec it like non turbo electric, which looks better.
4. looks like they added a flying buttress over the main dash, which is different that both my current cars. I really liked how they did it in current car, hope it keeps the same feel.
Apparently it will have a 400 mile range if the auto mags are correct. It's at a point where I could go full electric for my road trip car.
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1. wheels - anyone notice the extra beefiness where the rims meet the spokes? I can't tell if its for aerodynamics or weight, but it's not very attactive..
Aero. It's proliferating throughout the industryOriginally Posted by Peter Shirley
1. wheels - anyone notice the extra beefiness where the rims meet the spokes? I can't tell if its for aerodynamics or weight, but it's not very attactive..
I like it, for the most part. If they released an S model with a little more power and the active suspension I’d be all over it. I don’t need an 1100 hp grocery getter but I do want the active ride.
It looks a little frumpy from the back but I trust it looks better in person.
Only real disappointment is the interior colors. Three variants of beige and light purple? And I don’t like the way there is still a lot of contrasting black trim even with the lighter colored interiors. Just looks very busy.
My current daily driver lease is up in August. This is near the top of my list.
It looks a little frumpy from the back but I trust it looks better in person.
Only real disappointment is the interior colors. Three variants of beige and light purple? And I don’t like the way there is still a lot of contrasting black trim even with the lighter colored interiors. Just looks very busy.
My current daily driver lease is up in August. This is near the top of my list.
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This looks better:Originally Posted by Talon38c
Looks like it needs a diaper change.



