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Thanks for clarifying. Regardless, not the response I was hoping for from the dealer. Now I need to do more research on both issues and determine the impact, exposure, and how it changes my thinking on pricing.
Dealer responded and confirmed 1) the water pump has never been replaced as it has not had any issues and 2) the batter is is the Li-ion.
If you buy this car set aside $6k for water pump replacement at a dealer if you don't DIY. And for battery replacement plan on either $2500 at the dealer or ~$600 for a new AGM battery and conversion kit with DIY install. Or buy a warranty for comparable cost.
Is this a certified pre own Porsche?
if it is, water pump will be covered. No need to put $6k aside to change it.
One bad thing about low mileage cars is the normal maintenance sometimes isn’t done bc of the low miles on it.
depending on the owner who follows the time frame or the itself.
Looking at the car fax on yours, it looks like the plugs weren’t done yet.
Sometimes it’s actually better to buy a higher miles car bc all the service and maintenance have just been done on it and your good for awhile. If that makes any sense.
From the looks of it. Transmission fluid nor the transfer case fluid has been changed….
Your going to be spending a pretty penny on some maintenance on it if you buy it.
You got spark plugs to do too.
Might want to listen to Chassis and set aside $6k for maintenance stuff. I personally wouldn’t want to spend that kinda money buying it and then turn around to spend $$$ to do maintenance on it right away.
Another thing, I am pretty sure the reason the car hasn’t sold is because of the price and the lack of options. I see it doesn’t have the Premium Package or the Premium Plus package. There is also no lane change assist. That’s a definitely a must.
There are plenty CPO Cayenne S out there. I definitely would pass on this one and wait for another one to come.
Is this a certified pre own Porsche?
if it is, water pump will be covered. No need to put $6k aside to change it.
Probably the water pump or water valve will be covered given that it is a 3 year old car with 22k miles charge CPO adds 2 years powertrain warranty to the 4 year original. My 2021 S revealed its failing water valve at just over 4 years and 44k, but results vary. There is also the possibility or even likelihood of an extended warranty in the future.
Probably the water pump or water valve will be covered given that it is a 3 year old car with 22k miles charge CPO adds 2 years powertrain warranty to the 4 year original. My 2021 S revealed its failing water valve at just over 4 years and 44k, but results vary. There is also the possibility or even likelihood of an extended warranty in the future.
yup, but what stinks if it doesn't start failing and fails after the cpo warranty time frame.
Sounds like I need to do transmission and transfer case fluid replacement, pay for a change to an AGM battery, and hope the water pump fails in the next three years when the car is under CPO warranty (one year left on the standard warranty). Probably best if I move on to a different car.
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@MeddlingKid part of it depends on how imminently ready you are to buy. if you get too choosy, you will end up in the never ending cycle of looking. at a least with this one example, you know the situation. I like to have a warranty for the time I plan to keep a vehicle. that is just my general strategy having experience w other german cars. if you are willing to buy a car out of area, transporting it covered would be about 1500$ for 1000 miles. i might not recommend buying a pre-owned car without laying your eyes on it though. there are always small signs of wear if you are picky that you may care more or less about.
Sounds like I need to do transmission and transfer case fluid replacement, pay for a change to an AGM battery, and hope the water pump fails in the next three years when the car is under CPO warranty (one year left on the standard warranty). Probably best if I move on to a different car.
Most low mileage examples won’t have had the water pump or water valve done and most won’t have had the battery replaced so you are likely to find the same concerns. CPO may not cover the battery, and you can’t be sure when the pump, valve or battery will go. Maybe within an applicable warranty period, maybe not.
30k mile service is probably $2500 at a dealer. 40k mile service is over $3000. I just DIYed my 40k service — dealer quoted $3400.
My brakes at 44k are close to done. I need rotors and pads, front and rear this year. Parts cost is about $1200, not from a dealer, and a dealer would likely charge at least $1000 in labor. I will DIY.
Porsche are expensive to buy and expensive to maintain and repair. Great cars, though.
9Y0 regular maintenance (oil, filters, brakes) is very DIY-able. The water pump, t/stat and water valve are DIY-able - easier on V6.
Other than early .1 Li battery issues, there are no major systemic "failures" on 9Y0. I put the 6th gear vibration issue in the "livable" category, and it has no definitive solution.
Turbo wastegate arm failure is expensive, but quite DIY-able IMO and does not appear as widespread as water pump failure.
I recently read about a 6th gear shudder fix in a thread here — trans support and another part may fix it. If the parts aren’t too expensive, I’ll buy them and install them sometime this year.
Maybe buy a new one if the maintenance and potential repairs is a concern. Or find a good independent shop to work on the car. New costs more, but you get the 10k service for free and you get 4 years of full warranty. I personally would have bought CPO but could not find one that I wanted at a reasonable price in late 2020. I have bought 3 CPO BMWs and kept each for 10 years. Porsche service and repair prices seem like they are close to 50% more than BMW.
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