Hi
A very nubee. My first post and some questions! I just bought a Cayenne S 2024 (My 1st Porsche) and thoroughly enjoying it. I live in a very cold climate ( Winnipeg!) and considering to put Liqui Moli Ceratec to the oil. Is the clutch in this car wet/Dry (so I can use Ceratec) and how often I should change the oil? It is a daily driven car 40 kms average daily.

Cayenne S @024

21"

Interior

 

Why?

And what does the owner’s manual say about oil additives?

 

No clutch, it’s a traditional hydraulic torque converter automatic transmission.

 

whoa nice looking car! i have a white one w the same wheels and the barrique interior, though it is not an S.

I am doing my first oil change at 3000km then every 10000km after that.

i am doing a cautious engine break in the first 3000km. as always (break in and even after break in) i am not taking the engine over 3000rpm until the oil is at its full operating temp (200 degrees). once at full operating temp i am not exceeding 5000rpm. no cruise control. no short drives (less than about 8 miles). normal driving mode only.

i am using no additives. just good oil that meets the engine spec (there will be a sticker under the hood that tells u the oil weight and spec). and use good gas. i have heard of people in places w extreme cold using a different weight of oil. i do not know if i buy into it, but i know people do it. @retom may have an opinion or thoughts.

 

great advice. Manual says keep under 4krpm though, not 5k, on 2023.

 

Thanks everyone for the input, I live in Winnipeg where average temperature is about -15 to -20 C ( 5 to -4 F) and the Mobile 1 has a low concentration of Moly in it. Cold start is inevitable and to get the oil temperature to reach a true “Normal” can be hard even after driving for at least 10 miles. Still in my breakin period so was wondering that adding Ceratec can give me the added Moly slickness? Any information will be great help.

 

yes, but the manual is mute on operating temp they probably didn’t want to go into that detail. so at full temp when the oil can get into every little crevice 5000 is fine. but you only hit 5000 if ur driving more spirited which i have been sparing with so far.

 

Suggest you spend your time arguing researching at the below website and then decide what to do. Way more nerdery going on there.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/fo...ne-vehicles.1/

 

i am interested in this topic but i am too ignorant to contribute.

 

I wouldn’t try to second-guess Porsche by adding something to the oil, particularly while the car is under warranty. Porsche will have done loads of cold weather testing; follow what your dealer and/or the owner’s manual suggests for your car in your operating environment.

Does Porsche offer an engine block heater in Canada?

Personally I think additives are the modern equivalent of snake oil - loads of wonderful sounding but unquantified promises not backed up with hard, independently obtained evidence. And in the (unlikely) event you have to put in a warranty claim on your engine the additive supplier will be nowhere to be found.

 

now that i am thinking about it, an additive could react with a seal, plastic or adhesive in a negative way over time. just a thought. my instinct is to not do it. but i don’t live in a place that cold either. garage? i know even on the coldest days my garage seldom gets below 40F. also depending on the nature of ur running around u could leave the car running when u go into the store? u can physically lock it while running with the physical key.

 

Hi Felix

That's really helpful. After all the discussion etc. I will stay away from the additive. Porsche does not have any block heater, according to them non is needed

 

Hi Thomas

That is a very good point. Did not think about it! Thanks

 

Thanks!

 

Welcome to Rennlist! Congrats on your purchase, great looking Cayenne! Do not put any additives in your oil. Porsche does extensive winter testing (even colder than Winterpeg) and to put anything in your engine other than the factory specified oil could put your warranty at risk - and you don't want to have to pay for one of these engines. Your Cayenne will work fine in the cold - just keep the RPMs low-ish while it warms up. I'm with Felix in that additives are a scam.