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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 09:29 PM
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Wife suddenly decides she loves the 2020 Cayenne base. Wants to sell her Audi. I’ve whipped up a 2023 build for myself. Will sell the Audi now (have a buyer in the wings). In the interim I’ll drive my 996 C4 to the golf course and occasionally to the supermarket or out to dinner. Dealer has an allocation. Figure it’ll arrive Spring ‘23. Here’s the build. What’s missing? Gotta decide by 12/01. http://www.porsche-code.com/PPMQ3DV6
FWIW, an additional $4–6,000 gets me a similarly equipped GTS. To a great extent my “maturity” dictates the need for comfort over speed/performance.

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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 09:52 PM
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Lots of goodies…looks like a nice build. Getting close to the GTS price range but not everyone needs or wants a V8. That’s probably one of the most popular paint colors…maybe the most popular if Dealers didn’t order a lot of black cars for inventory.
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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 10:24 PM
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My last 2022 Cayenne S coupe have massage chair....Not worth getting. I traded foe 2023 coupe GTS.
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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 11:49 PM
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Good choices, particularly PSE and PSC. I also am a trailer hitch guy.

I would add (these take the price into GTS territory):
18 way seats
Assistance package
SportDesign front fascia
Mirror lower housing in exterior color
Puddle lights
Remote park assist
Rear window sunblinds
Porsche crests on seats front/rear
Deep pile floor mats

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Old Nov 29, 2022 | 11:55 PM
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Have you considered the plat edition?
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by LDT
To a great extent my “maturity” dictates the need for comfort over speed/performance.
As a “mature” person the thing I really like about the GTS is the comfort, speed and performance. Just because it’s a GTS doesn’t mean it’s a race car, it just has a few more fun things added. My config is all about comfort (message seats) for the long haul trips we take. What’s more comfortable than a vehicle that performs very well and stable at Highway speeds (pdcc and rws). Then there is always the grin when I step on it. Run a config for a GTS and compare. The beauty with Porsche is they give the ability to config a vehicle that best suits the person.

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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 12:56 AM
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Generally a nice build. I can’t imagine not optioning a GTS for $10 or so more. The torque and sound alone feel worth it to me, before you even get to the residual value rationalization…
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 11:28 AM
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Looks like a nice build. Can't really critique as all the options are highly personal, and you're not "missing" anything crucial.

I'm still pissed that you're allowed to order the matrix headlights because you're building an S, but I'm not because I built a hybrid. Stupid. I can understand restricting dealer stock orders, but customer orders? That's just ****ty, IMO.
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf
Looks like a nice build. Can't really critique as all the options are highly personal, and you're not "missing" anything crucial.

I'm still pissed that you're allowed to order the matrix headlights because you're building an S, but I'm not because I built a hybrid. Stupid. I can understand restricting dealer stock orders, but customer orders? That's just ****ty, IMO.
Understood about the Matrix LED's. Interestingly, my base 2020 has matrix design headlights incl. PDLS+ and they are remarkable.

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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 01:44 PM
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Thanks for the comments. As expected many votes for the GTS.
Given that I have no time constraints, my sense of due diligence demands
1. Don’t be rushed just because P dealer has allocation now
2. Do you really want two Cayennes in the garage?
3. At the very least take a look at the AMG GLE 53 and GLE 580 (I know, it’s not a Porsche) both of which spec out at +/- $100k compared to the $125k S or GTS
4. Charleston MB dealer has a black AMG 53 coupe which doesn’t fit my desired build but offers a test drive opportunity
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by LDT
Thanks for the comments. As expected many votes for the GTS.
Given that I have no time constraints, my sense of due diligence demands
1. Don’t be rushed just because P dealer has allocation now
2. Do you really want two Cayennes in the garage?
3. At the very least take a look at the AMG GLE 53 and GLE 580 (I know, it’s not a Porsche) both of which spec out at +/- $100k compared to the $125k S or GTS
4. Charleston MB dealer has a black AMG 53 coupe which doesn’t fit my desired build but offers a test drive opportunity
Caveat emptor with the GLE. Both models you listed have the 48V mild hybrid system, which MB has, and continues to, struggled with for the past three model years. Due diligence required.

If owning within mfr or extended warranty, the only issue is your time and frustration for repairs. If owning beyond warranty it could be a trail of tears.

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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 04:04 PM
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Caveat emptor with the GLE. Both models you listed have the 48V mild hybrid system, which MB has, and continues to, struggled with for the past three model years. Due diligence required.

If owning within mfr or extended warranty, the only issue is your time and frustration for repairs. If owning beyond warranty it could be a trail of tears.
That’s a problem worth delving into. You mean this? https://mbworld.org/forums/gle-class...v-battery.html
My ‘21 Audi had the 48v mild hybrid. No issues in 21 months of ownership. A fair amount of what I read about the MB issues is that it is somewhat confined to 2019 and 2020 builds.

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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 04:39 PM
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I'd go for the GTS
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by LDT
Thanks for the comments. As expected many votes for the GTS.
Given that I have no time constraints, my sense of due diligence demands
1. Don’t be rushed just because P dealer has allocation now
2. Do you really want two Cayennes in the garage?
3. At the very least take a look at the AMG GLE 53 and GLE 580 (I know, it’s not a Porsche) both of which spec out at +/- $100k compared to the $125k S or GTS
4. Charleston MB dealer has a black AMG 53 coupe which doesn’t fit my desired build but offers a test drive opportunity
All valid questions to ask. One might also ask re question 1, maybe you wait for the refresh to see what goodies it brings? Then you won't have two very similar Cayennes.

Also...Range Rover Sport lease...
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Old Nov 30, 2022 | 05:37 PM
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I'm actually trading a 2021 GLE580 for a Cayenne Turbo Coupe, never really warmed up to the 580. It's my wife's car but it is what we use for trips. I'm in the spring for the GTS club.
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