seems the base cayenne is far more expensive this time around. High 80s seems to be normal, I even saw a spec in excess of 100k posted on a thread. I was always under the perception that a base cayenne was a 70k vehicle. Are these first builds loaded up with options, was there a big price bump or was I wrong with my perception of previous generation pricing?

I agree. Just built my base to 86k. Want to get the S, so add another 10 or so. UGH

Porsche made a huge marketing decision when they added in the Macan. The Cayenne is now priced from 80+. If you want the <70, the Macan is the only choice. When the diesels came out in 2012 (2013 MY), I bought one of the first in the east coast. I kid you not, I bought new for $50K! It was not loaded, but still had some nice options and it was an amazing vehicle. I knew the GM as well, but Cayennes were looked differently then by Porsche.

We will be in the market for a family car soon, I really do want to continue my Pcar / Cayenne ownership, but the Macan is too small. The problem for me is justifying $112k (my S spec) vs a loaded X5 at $78k - $90k (6cyl or 8cyl). Just saying.

yup, major problem. I guess the one argument is somewhat higher resale on the Porsche, but don’t think it’s significant enough to justify the difference. The other would be how long do you keep the car? Beyond warranty I would go Porsche all day long. BMWs out of warranty are really bad and that’s coming from a guy who isn’t afraid of an out of warranty rover

Agree completely. Based on our test-drives and real-world testing, the S isn’t much of an option on the new Cayenne. The e-Hybrid is the better overall choice — not necessarily for performance reasons (although it’s at least as fast as the S), but for fuel economy and technology.

We had our S optioned to $125K before we stepped back and realized that was Turbo money. $31K in options on an $84K car was on the stupid end of the scale. That’s a decent third or fourth car by itself.

I couldn’t disagree more. The S engine is amazing. I had a CTT (12) before and not that the 19 S is faster, but the power band is just awesome and comes close to the my old CTT. I optioned my 2019 S to about $105K. I guess if you go for the 22, burm, PCCB and some other items, you can get to 125K, and yes if those were important to me I would get a 19 CTT. But I have premium plus, HUD, rear steering, 360, air suspension, 18 way seats, Adaptive cruise. I really would not order it differently at all. Personally I need more HP than the base. I would agree that the hybrid is a good as I have a 16 hybrid and I like it. However, I love the 2019 S engine! I think if you test drive a base then an S, the difference is very noticable (100HP). At least to me. I guess all is taste.

I love BMW almost as much as Porsche and it is true reliability is not what it was. I keep my cars so this will be a factor.