Originally Posted by pokingaround

Question for you all - what is *not* standard on the Turbo that you think you'd miss?.

Originally Posted by pokingaround

Also, did you see that post about the (much) lower water-wading depth for the E-H? Any thoughts?.

Originally Posted by ssiminou

I saw a video review on the Cayenne Hybrid that mentioned PDCC is standard on the rear axle with hybrids in order to make up for the added battery weight in the rear. So it leads me to believe that any money spent on PDCC with a Cayenne Hybrid affects the front axle, and since PDCC is priced the same as the other trims, it doesn't seem like the greatest option to add. Hybrid is in the sweet spot for me. I looked at the federal tax credits for the previous-gen Cayenne & Panamera, and the Cayenne had a tax credit of $500 more (i thought they had the same battery?). I don't know if that'll happen this time around, but if it does...an even better proposition.

You have to think about what your goal is and what your method of buying is. For me, it's about getting a great lease deal and staying under MRM, though I have to put up with a June delivery date. If you need something soon, look at a Base. If money is not an issue and you're buying, the Turbo is best over the S because of the standard equipment and the inevitable higher resale values. Then you have to factor things like accidents which can hurt you on a finance/buy but don't matter with a lease

My build iswww.porsche-code.com/PKVWYJ43.
MSRP is $94,445. I got 8% off (amazing discount), will get the ($6670 + $500? = $7170) tax credit, $1500 from SoCal Edison (few caveats to this), and I'll even factor in the PCNA $2500 d/c that they gave initial, patient Panamera Hybrid orders because of the EPA delays. I'm factoring all of that (~$19k) as discounts.

MF: 0.0028
Residual (36/10k): 58%
Total Drive-Off: ~ $3,000
Payment w/ CA Tax: $1,087
Total Lease Cost over 36 Months: $42,178
Subtracting Edison Rebate: $40,678 / 36 = $1,129 (true cost per month)

I also made sure that the MRM, Money Factor, and Residuals that are given now for the Hybrid are the same ones that will be used whenever my car arrives. Meaning that if the MF is hiked up to above 0.003XX, I'd get the current 0.0028. Conversely, if things get better and payments become more favorable when the car arrives, then we'd use those details instead. This is all listed on a document I made that we both signed.

To wrap it all up, if you don't care about money, the Turbo is best. If you want to be money smart, get the Base. If you want to be money savvy, get the Hybrid. And if you don't like Hybrids or want a mid-trim sooner rather than later, get the S. And as far as the water depth on the hybrid, I'm not sure if that figure considers the car being raised up with Air Suspension (optional, though PASM & Sport Chrono is standard), because these new cars seem to be able to raise themselves pretty high.

Originally Posted by JCWLS3

Biggest options to add on a Turbo are Sport Chrono ($1130 -- an utter requirement on this trim level) and the Premium Package Plus ($3690). If you want your Turbo to sound mean, add the Sport Exhaust System ($3220). The latter pisses me off, because a 540-horsepower TT V8 IMO should sound rough and blatty and poppy from the get-go. We shouldn't have to drop $3K to get it to act the part, you know?


Yes. My thoughts are that the batteries are mounted low on the e-Hybrid. Water incursion would be the death of the battery pack, and maybe even the driver, considering the amount of current involved. If you want your Cayenne to be a true off-roader, the e-Hybrid is not the choice to make.

Originally Posted by pokingaround

I hear you (ha) on the sport exhaust - that one strikes me as especially annoying. That said, there are so many costly options that are standard on $30k Chevy's that at a certain point it feels like I just have to let it all go!