Remaining new 2016 Cayenne Diesels?
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Remaining new 2016 Cayenne Diesels?
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I am very interested in a new diesel Cayenne to replace my Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.
I read an article recently that stated there were some ~1100 remaining unsold brand new 2016 Cayenne Diesels. It was mentioned they could be sold, maybe at a reduced msrp, very soon.
I did a quick search here once I registered but didn't see anything announced. I am assuming you cannot yet buy one of these remaining new 2016 diesels yet.
I am very interested in a new diesel Cayenne to replace my Jeep Wrangler Rubicon.
I read an article recently that stated there were some ~1100 remaining unsold brand new 2016 Cayenne Diesels. It was mentioned they could be sold, maybe at a reduced msrp, very soon.
I did a quick search here once I registered but didn't see anything announced. I am assuming you cannot yet buy one of these remaining new 2016 diesels yet.
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Heh, that'll be a bump up. Going from the Hemi in my Grand Cherokee to a '17 GTS was something. Upgrading from a bone-rattling Rubicon will be like dyin' and going to heaven. I was definitely interested in a CD but it's become clear that ain't happening in the US.
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2016's are considered 2.2 SUVs under the court settlement. VW had a final submittal of an emissions modification plan for such vehicles on April 25th. Assuming it was timely done, then it depends now on whether EPA/CARB approves such modifications. They have until October 23rd to decide.
My gut reaction is that EPA/CARB will approve the modifications. It is a matter of when. The next question is whether, if approved, Porsche plans to flood the market with the unsold SUVs. So far, no one knows. I suspect it is like the approved VW 2.0 cars. They will be quietly introduced into dealership stock and potential customers have to inquire around to find out.
My gut reaction is that EPA/CARB will approve the modifications. It is a matter of when. The next question is whether, if approved, Porsche plans to flood the market with the unsold SUVs. So far, no one knows. I suspect it is like the approved VW 2.0 cars. They will be quietly introduced into dealership stock and potential customers have to inquire around to find out.
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The article I read was from 6 months ago. Here is the link:
http://autoweek.com/article/vw-diese...t-be-back-sale
I thought by now, six months later, we would know more.
http://autoweek.com/article/vw-diese...t-be-back-sale
I thought by now, six months later, we would know more.
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I test drove a 12,500 mile 2014 Cayenne S with air suspension today. Not bad but no sale, car smelled like old dog in back seat and was absolutely filthy. The hunt continues....
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I'd hardly call my 2016 Rubicon Unlimited "bone rattling". It is the best off road vehicle by far, lack of on road manners is a compromise for being the best off road.
I test drove a 12,500 mile 2014 Cayenne S with air suspension today. Not bad but no sale, car smelled like old dog in back seat and was absolutely filthy. The hunt continues....
I test drove a 12,500 mile 2014 Cayenne S with air suspension today. Not bad but no sale, car smelled like old dog in back seat and was absolutely filthy. The hunt continues....
But with the sport trim on my GTS it'll probably be a little while before I subject the rocker panels to any rock crawlin'.
Keep up the hunt! They're definitely a blast to drive.
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No insult intended. Having had a CJ, several XKs and most recently a WK, I'm certainly a Jeep fan. I hated a Rubicon I rented from Memphis to Oxford, it's road manners were just awful. I mean, for a classic-style Jeep they were certainly fine. But compared to anything else, well, the concrete highway road segments were really annoying in it. Now, take it off-road and that's a whole other thing, even bone stock they're great for that. I got more than a few head shakes of disbelief from folks when the QDII setup in the WK powered through all kinds of trails with no effort at all. It almost seemed like cheating.
But with the sport trim on my GTS it'll probably be a little while before I subject the rocker panels to any rock crawlin'.
Keep up the hunt! They're definitely a blast to drive.
But with the sport trim on my GTS it'll probably be a little while before I subject the rocker panels to any rock crawlin'.
Keep up the hunt! They're definitely a blast to drive.
A wrangler on road is handicapped. I got 26k miles on my 2016 Rubicon already so I tested plenty of pavement. I am done and ready for something nicer on road.
A GTS isn't for me as I will still venture off pavement to explore and photograph wildlife/nature. I need maximum clearance, so air suspension is required.
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Everything's an option. I have a GTS with the air suspension option. I'd have to check but I don't know that it has any less clearance than the others when fully raised.
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The GTS trim looks to have lower side body molding reducing ground clearance then a base Cayenne or S trim.
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While you're Cayenne shopping for air suspension equipped vehicles with some off-road use in mind, you could also be on the lookout for one with the Off-road Underbody Protection Package (option code PT1). It includes some underbody hardware that helps protect drivetrain compnents from rocks, etc. For instance the bolt-on piece under the engine on mine is metal versus plastic, and there are side rocker panel protection pieces. There are also other pieces that protect differentials, etc.
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While you're Cayenne shopping for air suspension equipped vehicles with some off-road use in mind, you could also be on the lookout for one with the Off-road Underbody Protection Package (option code PT1). It includes some underbody hardware that helps protect drivetrain compnents from rocks, etc. For instance the bolt-on piece under the engine on mine is metal versus plastic, and there are side rocker panel protection pieces. There are also other pieces that protect differentials, etc.
It's hard enough finding a Cayenne with air suspension, let alone the optional skid plates. I wonder if the skid plates are available for purchase and install myself for reasonable price? What about the aftermarket, do they make better then stock skid plates?
Does air suspension come standard on Turbo models? I am thinking it's only available as option on the base, S and diesel.....
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I agree!
It's hard enough finding a Cayenne with air suspension, let alone the optional skid plates. I wonder if the skid plates are available for purchase and install myself for reasonable price? What about the aftermarket, do they make better then stock skid plates?
Does air suspension come standard on Turbo models? I am thinking it's only available as option on the base, S and diesel.....
It's hard enough finding a Cayenne with air suspension, let alone the optional skid plates. I wonder if the skid plates are available for purchase and install myself for reasonable price? What about the aftermarket, do they make better then stock skid plates?
Does air suspension come standard on Turbo models? I am thinking it's only available as option on the base, S and diesel.....
The pieces that make up the PT1 option package can be acquired and added individually on a vehicle without that package, but I imagine the cost would be incredible. You could check Suncoast Porsche parts website.
Not sure about aftermarket pieces.
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Thanks for the advice.
To me after going through Porsche online build tool, it seems the most desirable options if off-road use is intended:
- Air Suspension with Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
- Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV+)
- Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC)
- Off-Road Underbody Protection (PT1)
Maybe these front and rear fascia steel skids also:
- Stainless Steel Skid Plate (Front and Rear)
Includes:
Standard front and rear fascia with stylish stainless steel protective covering that highlights the vehicle's off-road ability
Wow, to find all that without special ordering would be almost impossible, no matter the engine choice. And as for color, it would be whatever it was. Maybe my best option is ordering new and skipping the diesel?
To me after going through Porsche online build tool, it seems the most desirable options if off-road use is intended:
- Air Suspension with Porsche Active Suspension Management (PASM)
- Porsche Torque Vectoring Plus (PTV+)
- Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC)
- Off-Road Underbody Protection (PT1)
Maybe these front and rear fascia steel skids also:
- Stainless Steel Skid Plate (Front and Rear)
Includes:
Standard front and rear fascia with stylish stainless steel protective covering that highlights the vehicle's off-road ability
Wow, to find all that without special ordering would be almost impossible, no matter the engine choice. And as for color, it would be whatever it was. Maybe my best option is ordering new and skipping the diesel?