Mtea

Nodoors, I do have videos of several of the anomalies and photos where a video wouldn't add much, all of which I consider hard evidence. All videos and photos plus a written narrative were provided to the dealer via a thumb drive and to 800 Porsche via Dropbox. These problems have never thrown any codes and still haven't (other than the brake light). I have my doubts as to whether anybody technically inclined ever looked at the photos and videos at either the dealer or PCNA. Their position is that if there are no codes, the vehicle is operating to manufacturer specifications despite visual evidence to the contrary. I personally find this position indefensible particularly given a $75k sticker.

nodoors

Yikes. Sorry if I missed that detail earlier. Agreed on your last point. I still surmise these issues are going to get worse over time.

One other route. Try to get the dealer to CPO the car so at least you cover your butt with the extended factory warranty period until the electrical gremlins do finally cause a major problem. If they refuse to CPO the car knowing about these issues, then you have at least caught them in a bit of a logical/legal bind. It is more money out of your pocket, but likely cheaper than the eventual repairs or trading it one for one that is not possessed.

CAVU

Stay after them. Don't give up.

Ask them why there diagnostic equipment, etc is not detecting these issues and to please bring in a PNCA Field Engineer.

I went down this road with a hatch that would not lock properly. Field Engineer showed up at the dealer for my car and another car with different issues. A few days later I hear from them and this has gone back to mother Porsche for a solution and then out came a software update and perfect operation since.

BIG smoke

I have heard this trick.
Leave your work order open. Don't sign it, if the problem has not be rectified.
Drives them crazy. Keep asking for a fix.
Germans engineers don't mistakes. You must be pushing the buttons wrong.
Keep on them.

MJG911

our 2012 CD used to occassionally just turn the radio up to full volume with no input. That and the headlight switch would move from Auto to Off all on its own. Our 2015 doesn't do either.

gnat

Must be that you got the only 2012 CD so you got to work out all the bugs

My 2013 used to do that from time to time. I finally figured it out though and it wasn't the car's fault (well, not entirely). My knee was bumping it as I'd get in or out of the vehicle. Not significantly that I even noticed until I started trying to figure it out, but enough that it would turn the lights off.

Changed how I get in and out so that my knee is less likely to hit it and I haven't had an issue since.

Mtea

MJG911, funny you should mention the headlights turning from "auto" to "off". I have had that happen many times, although less so as of late. I'm an average size guy so my knees don't come anywhere near the light switch when getting in or out. I suppose it's possible the light switch issue is related to the other electrical issues. Interesting that you also experienced the volume going up with no input, similar to my experience.

Mtea

I just remembered I had posted a forum thread about the headlight switch about 18 months ago. Three others had the same issue. See the thread here:

https://rennlist.com/forums/porsche-...y-on-auto.html

bella1

Me too. Not so much lately

Mtea

After having PCNA tell me that my CD is operating according to specifications, I noticed this week that the front passenger seat belt warning is not working. Wife is sitting there with no seat belt and no warning. Also no warning that there is a problem with that system in the PCM display. We'll see what PCNA has to say about this.

gnat

That one is normal. Or at least I figured it was as my 2013 doesn't complain about unbuckled passengers.

Mtea

Thanks gnat. I called the dealer before I saw your post and they said the same thing. Every other car I've had in the past 10 years had a chime when the passenger seat was occupied but the belt wasn't buckled - two BMWs and a GMC. It was so ubiquitous that I assumed it was required but it is not.

MJG911

2013, typo! I thought it could be the knee, but its never happened in our 15.

Mtea

I continued to have these electrical problems and also discussed the issues wirh a friend that owns a Ford dealership. He thought it quite likely that it could be caused by a bad battery. I also continued to notify PCNA as problems occurred and they continued to be of absolutely no help.

I had the CD into Lyle Pearson Porsche in Boise for an oil change and discussed the issues wirh the service manager. He and the dealership were super and decided to replace the battery on their own dime as PCNA would not cover it. Since the battery replacement I have driven five full days from Boise to Tampa and have had no issues. The battery may have been the problem. We'll see if all stays in order. I am very disappointed in PCNA.

Mtea