Options changes between newer and older 958?
02-24-2019, 04:43 PM
#1
Options changes between newer and older 958?
In the past I’ve always driven cars, and have now been faced with the reality that my next daily driver vehicle really needs to be an SUV. (family, utility) I currently drive a 328i xdrive, I also picked up my first Porsche last year (997.1 TT). The issue I’ve been having is that no SUV really excites me. I like luxury vehicles, but I hate depreciation. Im always trying to find the best value for the money. I typically buy cars that are around 3 years old and keep them for 6-8+ years. I’m highly considering picking up a cayenne as my next daily. The issue I’m having is that where I would typically buy something 2015-2016 in this spot, the model appears the same as the 2011-2012. I’m trying to find out what the major differences between the earlier model 958 and the 2015-2016 years. The cars seem to be pretty similar. Are there major creature comfort changes? Is there something that makes the newer cars worth the additional price tag, assuming equal mileage and care? What would be some if the pitfalls of picking up a low mileage 2011-2012 vs a newer one. I’d love to be talked into an older one, but I don’t want to miss out significantly on major updates.
02-24-2019, 07:35 PM
#2
Pretty sure new engines came out in 2015. I also notice a few upgrades like the new steering wheel.
I’d also worry about issues that an 8 year old Porsche will have :-)
I’m looking to trade my Lexus in for a Cayenne also. Looking at 2015 and 2016 models.
I’d also worry about issues that an 8 year old Porsche will have :-)
I’m looking to trade my Lexus in for a Cayenne also. Looking at 2015 and 2016 models.
02-24-2019, 07:43 PM
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If you want to make sure you are on the correct side of depreciation, pick up a 2013 or 2014 Cayenne Diesel. I don't think there is a huge amount of options difference between the newer 958s, and I just picked up a 2013 that had a sticker price of almost 75K for 26K. Still has 6 months left of the bumper to bumper and 5 years left of the emissions (which covers most of the engine).
02-24-2019, 08:51 PM
#4
yeah I understand the age thing, but if there is one thing I know, mileage is a much bigger contributor to wear and tear than age. Especially with these cars. It’s likely a lower mileage example will have been garage kept. Plus Porsche has been great with reliability, other than the transfer case issue, which seems like I will be either factoring in the mix, or purchasing a warranty..
If you want to make sure you are on the correct side of depreciation, pick up a 2013 or 2014 Cayenne Diesel. I don't think there is a huge amount of options difference between the newer 958s, and I just picked up a 2013 that had a sticker price of almost 75K for 26K. Still has 6 months left of the bumper to bumper and 5 years left of the emissions (which covers most of the engine).
Thanks for the responses.
02-24-2019, 09:09 PM
#5
Also fairly substantial changes in external appearance at MY 2015. options etc should be similar. I didn’t care for the pre 2015 tail lights and front end as much as the 2015+ vehicles. But everyone’s opinion differs.
02-24-2019, 11:44 PM
#6
I feel your pain as I was in the same boat. While the 958 is fun and engaging to drive per the normal humdrum of suvs, it doesn’t hold a prayer in resale and reliability to the Toyota landcruiser. Boring yeah, but serious off road chops and built for a 25 year cycle. Take a look at the 200 series as they are starting to be more affordable. As long as it is rust free, I wouldn’t turn down 100k miles on one.
Just a thought.
EVO
my ctt does put a larger grin on my face though and that’s worth a lot. Cpo and all smiles.
Just a thought.
EVO
my ctt does put a larger grin on my face though and that’s worth a lot. Cpo and all smiles.
02-25-2019, 03:42 PM
#7
Drifting
958.1 (2011-2014) versus 958.2 (2015-2018) gens, basically the same vehicles for the most part, but here are the differences I can recall off the top of my head...
1) Probably the largest difference is the updated exterior styling of the the 958.2, most noticeable on the front and the rear.
2) 2017+ got the new PCM 4.0.
3) 958.2 gen got the updated steering wheel style.
4) There are a couple of updated wheel designs with 958.2.
5) Powertrains were basically the same, although no more diesel in 958.2 gen, the hybrids were much updated technology with the 958.2, and S and GTS models went to a twin-turbo V6 versus the previous N/A 4.8 V8s.
6) Chrono package with 'Sport Plus' setting became available with the 958.2.
7) The availability of an optional 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' (PSE) for the Turbo model with the 958.2.
I think those are the main differences. Others feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything of significance.
Overall though, they're really MUCH more similar than they are different. Only enthusiasts can probably actually tell the two gens apart.
Hope this helps.
1) Probably the largest difference is the updated exterior styling of the the 958.2, most noticeable on the front and the rear.
2) 2017+ got the new PCM 4.0.
3) 958.2 gen got the updated steering wheel style.
4) There are a couple of updated wheel designs with 958.2.
5) Powertrains were basically the same, although no more diesel in 958.2 gen, the hybrids were much updated technology with the 958.2, and S and GTS models went to a twin-turbo V6 versus the previous N/A 4.8 V8s.
6) Chrono package with 'Sport Plus' setting became available with the 958.2.
7) The availability of an optional 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' (PSE) for the Turbo model with the 958.2.
I think those are the main differences. Others feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything of significance.
Overall though, they're really MUCH more similar than they are different. Only enthusiasts can probably actually tell the two gens apart.
Hope this helps.
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02-25-2019, 06:18 PM
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I feel your pain as I was in the same boat. While the 958 is fun and engaging to drive per the normal humdrum of suvs, it doesn’t hold a prayer in resale and reliability to the Toyota landcruiser. Boring yeah, but serious off road chops and built for a 25 year cycle. Take a look at the 200 series as they are starting to be more affordable. As long as it is rust free, I wouldn’t turn down 100k miles on one.
Just a thought.
EVO
my ctt does put a larger grin on my face though and that’s worth a lot. Cpo and all smiles.
Just a thought.
EVO
my ctt does put a larger grin on my face though and that’s worth a lot. Cpo and all smiles.
958.1 (2011-2014) versus 958.2 (2015-2018) gens, basically the same vehicles for the most part, but here are the differences I can recall off the top of my head...
1) Probably the largest difference is the updated exterior styling of the the 958.2, most noticeable on the front and the rear.
2) 2017+ got the new PCM 4.0.
3) 958.2 gen got the updated steering wheel style.
4) There are a couple of updated wheel designs with 958.2.
5) Powertrains were basically the same, although no more diesel in 958.2 gen, the hybrids were much updated technology with the 958.2, and S and GTS models went to a twin-turbo V6 versus the previous N/A 4.8 V8s.
6) Chrono package with 'Sport Plus' setting became available with the 958.2.
7) The availability of an optional 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' (PSE) for the Turbo model with the 958.2.
I think those are the main differences. Others feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything of significance.
Overall though, they're really MUCH more similar than they are different. Only enthusiasts can probably actually tell the two gens apart.
Hope this helps.
1) Probably the largest difference is the updated exterior styling of the the 958.2, most noticeable on the front and the rear.
2) 2017+ got the new PCM 4.0.
3) 958.2 gen got the updated steering wheel style.
4) There are a couple of updated wheel designs with 958.2.
5) Powertrains were basically the same, although no more diesel in 958.2 gen, the hybrids were much updated technology with the 958.2, and S and GTS models went to a twin-turbo V6 versus the previous N/A 4.8 V8s.
6) Chrono package with 'Sport Plus' setting became available with the 958.2.
7) The availability of an optional 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' (PSE) for the Turbo model with the 958.2.
I think those are the main differences. Others feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything of significance.
Overall though, they're really MUCH more similar than they are different. Only enthusiasts can probably actually tell the two gens apart.
Hope this helps.
thank you for your response. This is very helpful.
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02-25-2019, 06:21 PM
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958.1 (2011-2014) versus 958.2 (2015-2018) gens, basically the same vehicles for the most part, but here are the differences I can recall off the top of my head...
1) Probably the largest difference is the updated exterior styling of the the 958.2, most noticeable on the front and the rear.
2) 2017+ got the new PCM 4.0.
3) 958.2 gen got the updated steering wheel style.
4) There are a couple of updated wheel designs with 958.2.
5) Powertrains were basically the same, although no more diesel in 958.2 gen, the hybrids were much updated technology with the 958.2, and S and GTS models went to a twin-turbo V6 versus the previous N/A 4.8 V8s.
6) Chrono package with 'Sport Plus' setting became available with the 958.2.
7) The availability of an optional 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' (PSE) for the Turbo model with the 958.2.
I think those are the main differences. Others feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything of significance.
Overall though, they're really MUCH more similar than they are different. Only enthusiasts can probably actually tell the two gens apart.
Hope this helps.
1) Probably the largest difference is the updated exterior styling of the the 958.2, most noticeable on the front and the rear.
2) 2017+ got the new PCM 4.0.
3) 958.2 gen got the updated steering wheel style.
4) There are a couple of updated wheel designs with 958.2.
5) Powertrains were basically the same, although no more diesel in 958.2 gen, the hybrids were much updated technology with the 958.2, and S and GTS models went to a twin-turbo V6 versus the previous N/A 4.8 V8s.
6) Chrono package with 'Sport Plus' setting became available with the 958.2.
7) The availability of an optional 'Porsche Sport Exhaust' (PSE) for the Turbo model with the 958.2.
I think those are the main differences. Others feel free to add to the list if I've missed anything of significance.
Overall though, they're really MUCH more similar than they are different. Only enthusiasts can probably actually tell the two gens apart.
Hope this helps.