everybodywildou

will cayenne turbo calipers fit the base/diesel model?

schernov

according to PET - there is only one knuckle part number for all models. So all calipers should have same mounting points. You would need matching disk and pads.

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schernov

I do have a confusion of my own. I have a base 3.6 cayenne with manual trans. 2013 model year. Nov 2012 build. US car.
18 inch wheels Black calipers.

called three dealers. Everybody quoting 360mm disks. While product documentation shows 350 and sometimes 360 in various marketing brochures.

Do black calipers accommodate both 350 and 360 disks?

if you look at pdf parts catalog - there is an option for "brakes for 18 inch wheels black calipers, North America. - which does cross reference to 360mm.
however there is also an option for black calipers for 350mm.

BBgun

Now, I'm also confused.
2013 Base.
I just got a quote from the dealer
Front part # 95835140301 - 360mm
Rear # 95535240131 - 330 mm (a 955 number ?)

schernov

that's the same front rotor part number ! Xxxx301 for the left and xxxx401 for the Right.

what's your build date?
what's your wheel size?
caliper color?

schernov

What I think is happening is that Porsche USA has standardized across 350/360 into 360mm size. I think black calipers support both rotors and there was no reason to stock two sizes so they just stated doing 360 for Base, Diesel and GTS. Just a theory. All dealers double confirmed that based on VIN it's the right part.

9000RPM

You guys asking about these sizes, are you DIY'ing the brake job? If yes, do none of you have a tape measure?
350mm = 13.78"
360mm = 14.17"

BBgun

Prod Month: 2012-07-01
18 inch wheels and black calipers.
I provided my VIN and that's what they sent me


Fronts

Rear

everybodywildou

But aren’t the red turbo calipers the same as the black and silver, but just with bigger rotors? If so, how do we get the bigger rotors to fit?

schernov

No, calipers are different part numbers, so they accomodate even larger rotors....however, because the knuckle is the same across all models - that means that bolt holes are the same - so if you get larger Turbo calipers, 390 mm disks, and probably hard brake lines - it should fit.

wkearney99

Assuming, of course, that you're also using rims large enough to allow clearance for the calipers. GTS/Turbo red calipers wont fit inside 18" rims.

everybodywildou

thanks gents. I actually snagged a set of turbo calipers front and rear along with the dust shields for a really good price. My car came with 19’s, but I’m running 22’s. I’m hoping that everything will fit as long as I get the proper rotors and pads. I wanted a little more stopping power for when I tow with my diesel.

schernov

Let us know. I would also replace the hard brake lines which snake around the caliper.

everybodywildou

Sounds good. I’m ordering the rest of the parts here shortly. Why the hardliners too, though?

DrBillyD

IDK enough about the front "knuckle" to know if it's the same across all model/trim levels of 958 Cayenne but I can say with confidence that the caliper bolts (that hold the caliper to the "knuckle") are not the same across all models/trim levels.

I know this because when I did the front brakes on my 2014 CTTS (390mm front rotors; steel (not PCCB)), I noticed that most parts sites listed two types of caliper bolts, which I've come to refer to as "short" and "long." I sent inquiries (with my VIN) to Suncoast, Pelican, and my local Porsche dealer and got conflicting answers--one said "long", another said "short" and perhaps the most honest reply was from my local dealer.... "we can't tell." LOL In the end, I ordered BOTH because I figured when I started the job, it would be a royal PITA to get it taken apart and realize I didn't have the right caliper bolt to get it back together. The bolts are about $5 each so not a huge expense; turns out I needed the "long" bolts.

There is a way to determine which bolt is currently on the vehicle. I'm going from memory here so can't confidently say I have this right, but the gist is that the different bolts have different head patterns. I believe the "long" bolt (which is on my vehicle) has a Torx socket and uses a T55 (I think) bit. The "short" bolt has a "triple square" socket and uses an M14 (I think) bit. Going from memory here so might have that reversed.

If you're changing rotors and calipers, this might not be much help because what's on your Cayenne now probably won't be what you need when going to the larger caliper but at least you'll be aware that there are two caliper bolt lengths and can research the subject yourself.

Good luck!