Looking to get a "family" car... What do the experts recommend?
08-23-2014 | 09:26 PM
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That one is fairly lightly optioned, although not unusual for a base model. It has PCM 2.1 with telephone prep, which is nice. It also has bi-xenon headlights and the light comfort package with memory seats. The wheels are probably replicas, but they look nice. The price seems a little high, but the seller might be willing to negotiate.
08-23-2014 | 09:33 PM
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That one is fairly lightly optioned, although not unusual for a base model. It has PCM 2.1 with telephone prep, which is nice. It also has bi-xenon headlights and the light comfort package with memory seats. The wheels are probably replicas, but they look nice. The price seems a little high, but the seller might be willing to negotiate.
Does the light comfort package have heated seats? Wife loves those. I hate them.
He told me the wheels are not replicas, they are from a GTS. Also, he put 2010 tail lights in.
He is negotiable. What is the most you would pay?
Thanks
08-23-2014 | 10:06 PM
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Cardan shaft... can you elaborate? I assume that thing breaks quite often?
08-23-2014 | 11:43 PM
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08-24-2014 | 01:28 AM
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in all reality... just speaking with sense rather than dollars..
if you "have" 14-16k cash...
put 5-10k down and order a brand new v6 cayenne... (sticker it under 55k)... so thats 10% down... when it comes in u can then afford.... 8-12 months of payments (payment on 50k is like 1k/mon)
the vehicle will still be worth 55k, if not more (if you know the right people).. you sell and get all your money back minus the interest paid... and you effectively have had a brand new cayenne for.. ~2k in fee's and interest and insurance..
thats working with sense, imo.
just dont wreck it... and have adequate insurance on it and not KBB value but replacement value insurance... that way you cover your *** in case of an accident/etc...
you could also buy a macan, but cayenne is better value for dollar and better resale... new v6 will be shown inside 6 months as well if you can wait...
technically speaking... you could pick from a handful of cars on market now.. negotiate them properly.. and drive them for a year basically for free (minus interest and insurance)... it's all about doing homework.
if you "have" 14-16k cash...
put 5-10k down and order a brand new v6 cayenne... (sticker it under 55k)... so thats 10% down... when it comes in u can then afford.... 8-12 months of payments (payment on 50k is like 1k/mon)
the vehicle will still be worth 55k, if not more (if you know the right people).. you sell and get all your money back minus the interest paid... and you effectively have had a brand new cayenne for.. ~2k in fee's and interest and insurance..
thats working with sense, imo.
just dont wreck it... and have adequate insurance on it and not KBB value but replacement value insurance... that way you cover your *** in case of an accident/etc...
you could also buy a macan, but cayenne is better value for dollar and better resale... new v6 will be shown inside 6 months as well if you can wait...
technically speaking... you could pick from a handful of cars on market now.. negotiate them properly.. and drive them for a year basically for free (minus interest and insurance)... it's all about doing homework.
08-24-2014 | 08:20 AM
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WTF with Cayenne owners?
Don't listen to those guys: It's a great truck!
I think that '05 is priced high by a few thousand. There's nothing special there options-wise, the miles aren't particularly low. I think I'd offer in the mid teens.
You're looking for something that's going to take a beating from kids for a few years. The fact that this one hasn't got a mark on it and has 50k 'lady driven' miles (WTF? My wife beats the **** out of her cars...) is pointless; a month after you get your family into it you'll be cleaning puke and french fries out from underneath the rear seats.
I think the V6 is a fine idea. I have one and I'm happy with the power. They seem to have fewer problems than the V8s. If you get one with over 75k, check to see if the Cardan shaft has been redone. If it hasn't, figure on $500 to do it yourself or $750 to have an indy do it for you (a rebuilt shaft is around $450).
Don't listen to those guys: It's a great truck!
I think that '05 is priced high by a few thousand. There's nothing special there options-wise, the miles aren't particularly low. I think I'd offer in the mid teens.
You're looking for something that's going to take a beating from kids for a few years. The fact that this one hasn't got a mark on it and has 50k 'lady driven' miles (WTF? My wife beats the **** out of her cars...) is pointless; a month after you get your family into it you'll be cleaning puke and french fries out from underneath the rear seats.
I think the V6 is a fine idea. I have one and I'm happy with the power. They seem to have fewer problems than the V8s. If you get one with over 75k, check to see if the Cardan shaft has been redone. If it hasn't, figure on $500 to do it yourself or $750 to have an indy do it for you (a rebuilt shaft is around $450).
08-24-2014 | 08:28 AM
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I love it.
That's the shaft between the transmission and the rear differential. They have a u-joint in the center and they're positioned under the truck by a set of bearings that go bad every 75k-100k. As I mentioned above: the shaft itself is about $450 and you can replace it yourself with tools you probably have. My indy did mine for about $750, which included the labor. Do a search for 'cardan shaft' and you'll find complete instructions and war stories.
08-24-2014 | 08:32 AM
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Also: If you can find one with the Becker CDR-23 head unitand without the MOST, jump on it. Changing to a modern dual-DIN system becomes an absolute snap, as opposed to dealing with the MOST, which is universally regarded as an expensive pain-in-the-***.
08-24-2014 | 09:47 AM
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Shawn, phenomenal info, thanks. I am aware the car will get dirty inside and out, but the wife does a great job taking care of our cars, so I don't mind (and kind of prefer) getting a pristine example. Largely because the care taken if the car cosmetically is generally indicative of the care taken mechanically (although, not a foolproof hypothesis of course).
I am looking in the price range because that is what I can "afford" with cash, as in that is what we have budgeted. I can "afford" a payment, sure-- I just despise owing anyone money.
I am going to try to work the V6 guy down a bit more. Will see where that gets me.
Thanks again, your replies are incredibly helpful.
I am looking in the price range because that is what I can "afford" with cash, as in that is what we have budgeted. I can "afford" a payment, sure-- I just despise owing anyone money.
I am going to try to work the V6 guy down a bit more. Will see where that gets me.
Thanks again, your replies are incredibly helpful.
08-24-2014 | 09:54 AM
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So the built in nav is a POS?
08-24-2014 | 12:38 PM
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The light comfort package includes: automatic headlamps, dimmer controlled interior LED lighting in the foot wells and the doors, self-dimming interior and exterior mirrors, and I believe that Homelink was part of it. It's a nice package. Heated seats are a seperate option. Many but certainly not all S models have heated seats.
The telephone prep package means that the head unit will accept a telephone kit. You'll have to buy one, something like a Motorola or Parrot Bluetooth kit to make your phone work with it. It will have phone buttons on the head unit to allow you to activate the system once the kit is installed. If you install a Mobridge or similar product then you can have iPod/iPhone connectivity also.
The PCM unit in the 2003 and 2004 models is PCM 2.0 which is CD based. On the 2005 - 2009 models it is PCM 2.1 which is DVD based. Both systems work fine, but they are outdated compared to the nav in newer cars. You'll want to install the latest map updates if they haven't been recently updated.
The telephone prep package means that the head unit will accept a telephone kit. You'll have to buy one, something like a Motorola or Parrot Bluetooth kit to make your phone work with it. It will have phone buttons on the head unit to allow you to activate the system once the kit is installed. If you install a Mobridge or similar product then you can have iPod/iPhone connectivity also.
The PCM unit in the 2003 and 2004 models is PCM 2.0 which is CD based. On the 2005 - 2009 models it is PCM 2.1 which is DVD based. Both systems work fine, but they are outdated compared to the nav in newer cars. You'll want to install the latest map updates if they haven't been recently updated.
08-24-2014 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt O.
Shawn, phenomenal info, thanks. I am aware the car will get dirty inside and out, but the wife does a great job taking care of our cars, so I don't mind (and kind of prefer) getting a pristine example. Largely because the care taken if the car cosmetically is generally indicative of the care taken mechanically (although, not a foolproof hypothesis of course).
It's good for what it was at the time. However, based on threads here, updating is difficult, requiring a specific CD. Plus: No Bluetooth or iPod integration without an expensive add-on to the MOST system.
Do some searches and you'll see what I mean.
Mine had an absolutely basic audio system: Becker CDR-23, not MOST, no BOSE. I swapped to a modern system for about $150 in about an hour. I lost the integrated dash display, but kept the steering wheel controls. I'm going to move to a double-DIN Android-based unit in the not too distant future. I expect that swap to take about 20 minutes.
08-24-2014 | 12:56 PM
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