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Old 06-10-2014 | 02:57 PM
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Don't forget that the Turbo has an piston skirt oil squirter that the CS V8 folks don't have. This combined with the forge vs cast piston is what also contributes to the scoring. I've heard of blocks on the Turbo failing, but it's not for the same reason that the CS blocks get scored. Even then, the Turbo failures seem to be on par with just about any car having a major block failure. I think I could count 3 that I remember on the forums.

Good driving habits, proper oil, and staying on top of maintenance should ensure that your Turbo motor lasts far longer than you'll likely ever have the car.
I hear you. Many (including some on this esteemed forum) advised me that I was crazy to worry about piston scoring at all, especially with a TT. I specifically asked Jake at Flat6 about this when I was shopping. I believe I recall that he told me that, although piston scoring is rare with the TTs, it does happen, he had seen several recently, and he attributed that increase to this year's particularly cold winter. While the squirters are an advantage (if I recall correctly, F6 installs them on all V8 rebuilds), my understanding is that they do not prevent piston scoring, the root cause of which is insufficient piston clearance to tolerate cold winter starts.

I could find no instances of scoring in southern TTs. Given the abundance of lightly driven Cayennes in markets like FL, CA, and AZ, it seemed like a no-brainer to me to focus my search accordingly. (Ended up buying a Texas car.)
Old 06-10-2014 | 03:39 PM
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Yeah - buying southern cars has a lot of benefits, but I guess I never felt that the scoring on the TT was in the same category as the CS. I'm sure F6, given the nature of their job, probably sees a few CTTs with bad cylinders, but to me at least, it's well within the background noise of the other odd failures that you see - like blown air struts. I'd buy a southern car just to not have the corrosion on everything from the road salt that you see on the northern cars. My touareg with 100K miles from NJ looked like hell underneath compared to my CTT (CO car it's whole life). The body wasn't rusting, just the hardware and surface of the underside of the car.

It's really quite remarkable how resilient the CTT is given the weight, power, and capability.
Old 06-10-2014 | 04:26 PM
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It's really quite remarkable how resilient the CTT is given the weight, power, and capability.
Yep. I had never even considered Porsche and was in the market for a Land Cruiser, but just couldn't find a deal I liked. The 955TT may well offer the best value for price of any used SUV right now. It's a no brainer as a daily driver and looks to have the potential to be as fun, useful and durable as my e35, which I finally let go at 240k miles. Gotta love that German engineering.

BTW - What did you do for a) spare tire (assuming you got an empty well, like I did); and b) hands free phone?
Old 06-10-2014 | 04:35 PM
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I don't have a spare in mine. There is a factory subwoofer right there, and I just use the spare room to put a few tools. I do have a factory sealant kit, though. I have USAA insurance and have roadside service through them. So, will just use that if I run into an issue. When I venture way off the beaten path where there isn't cell service, I'll have a spare rim and tire on the roof. Planning on having an AT setup for winter use, and that will also be my setup for trips deep into the mountains.

I don't have hands free. I never felt the need to have it since I can hold the phone and drive with one hand just fine. And, I try to not make it a habit to drive and talk, anyway. I had handsfree in the Touareg through some aftermarket motorola thing, but somehow it still ended up being just like holding the phone - as far as the distraction level. You'd think it would be just the same as talking to someone in the car, but somehow it's not. I could see needing it if driving while holding a phone was illegal, but it's not in our state.

I just called Webasto to inquire about a park heater retrofit, and they said that Porsche does offer a kit for the US market. I called my local Porsche dealer and they're researching it. I would love to have the ability to heat the inside of the car, and the block, without having to let the car idle. I'll post up what I find as I think a lot of folks would be interested in it.
Old 06-10-2014 | 04:55 PM
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Hence the high mileage, and also why each Techart Formula wheel is bent, i think he used to commute at high speed on all the roads even if they were crappy.

Luckily it was always serviced at the dealer and they gave me all the records so i didn't need it inspecting as it was sold through them too.

I did have another 04' turbo inspected by an independent dealer and it certainly helped me dodge a bullet.


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Wow, having been to both Calgary and Grande Prairie thats a long commute, and the roads at GP leave a lot to be desired….

So is it worth getting a mechanical inspection done on any potential purchases to weed out the gremlins? Is that normal or not?
Old 06-10-2014 | 05:30 PM
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Thanks WP. Appreciate the quick hit back and the info.

I don't have a spare in mine. There is a factory subwoofer right there, and I just use the spare room to put a few tools. I do have a factory sealant kit, though. I have USAA insurance and have roadside service through them. So, will just use that if I run into an issue. When I venture way off the beaten path where there isn't cell service, I'll have a spare rim and tire on the roof. Planning on having an AT setup for winter use, and that will also be my setup for trips deep into the mountains.
Yep. AAA + spare for out of range is the best I could come up with. That rear mount is a joke.

I don't have hands free. I never felt the need to have it since I can hold the phone and drive with one hand just fine. And, I try to not make it a habit to drive and talk, anyway. I had handsfree in the Touareg through some aftermarket motorola thing, but somehow it still ended up being just like holding the phone - as far as the distraction level. You'd think it would be just the same as talking to someone in the car, but somehow it's not. I could see needing it if driving while holding a phone was illegal, but it's not in our state.
Illegal (and enforced) in DC...


I just called Webasto to inquire about a park heater retrofit, and they said that Porsche does offer a kit for the US market. I called my local Porsche dealer and they're researching it. I would love to have the ability to heat the inside of the car, and the block, without having to let the car idle. I'll post up what I find as I think a lot of folks would be interested in it.
That would be great to know and, if available, to have the part number. I checked with webasto a couple months ago when I was in the hunt and found sales lit for a U.S. parking heater on their website. When I couldn't get the NA distributor locator to work, I reached out to some exec I found on linkedin. I heard back from customer service that they no longer had U.S. distribution and I noticed that the sales lit got pulled from their site about that time. Never thought to check with Porsche and I was right there a couple days ago (carping about the spare tire solutions). Doh!
Old 06-10-2014 | 05:52 PM
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None of the dealers seem to know what I'm talking about. I sent an email to a Canadian Porsche dealer to see if they have access to a kit. Otherwise, I'm sure i could piece it together, but it probably wouldn't be an easy install.
Old 06-11-2014 | 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniffer
Is the factory setup that good?

I`ve had times where I`ve wondered if the X5 was built in the dark with some of the issues Ive had
Yes, the factory setup is that good

I am not easily impressed either.

If you get a chance, go and see how these Porsche cars get built, even if you aren't picking up a brand new one.
Old 06-11-2014 | 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Sniffer
Yep, me too - I spend around two thirds of my time up that direction, I actually head back up there tomorrow although I always fly (the roads north of Fort Mac where I am are pretty horrible) - the car stays down here with Wifey

So the Cayenne handles the cold just fine? Thats encouraging. I assume its sure footed in the snow too? Do you run winter & summer tyres or all seasons?
Very sure footed in the snow & ice.
All season in the summer, dedicated snows in the winter.
Scorpion Ice & Snow on a set of 18's.
Got them at a great price through Damon at the Tire Rack.

I travel throughout AB & SK in every type of weather, with confidence
Old 06-11-2014 | 12:11 PM
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Interesting - can I ask how many miles out of curiosity?
Mine had 71,000. It has no squeaks or rattles and drives tight just like what I would expect from a new Porsche. The 957 is a hugely different animal, but the steering actually still feels a lot to me like what my Boxster S felt like, and has a similar feeling steering wheel too. And of course the 987S was much more nimble, but the steering feel is similar.

Last I looked, there were two GTS's for sale in Chicago on eBay with similar mileage to mine. The one is White/Tan with White wheels, and the other is Silver/Black
Old 06-11-2014 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 09RedGTS
e. The 957 is a hugely different animal,
Than what? A 955? They are the exact same chassis, a bodykit alone doesn't make a "hugely different animal"

I realize there are other changes to options but if you don't have those expensive options then its possible to have a 955 and 957 outfitted nearly identical.
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Agreed. The only difference that is noteworthy in the 957 is the PDCC option. It's a nice feature and it does make a small improvement, but it's not substantial enough to make the 957 a totally different animal.
Old 06-12-2014 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cole
Than what? A 955? They are the exact same chassis, a bodykit alone doesn't make a "hugely different animal"

I realize there are other changes to options but if you don't have those expensive options then its possible to have a 955 and 957 outfitted nearly identical.
In that sentence, I was comparing the steering feel with that of the Boxster S.
Old 06-12-2014 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 09RedGTS
In that sentence, I was comparing the steering feel with that of the Boxster S.
Reads more like you were saying the 957 is a completely different animal with the steering feel of a Boxster. Implying that its different than the conversation bout 955s.
Old 06-12-2014 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wrinkledpants
Agreed. The only difference that is noteworthy in the 957 is the PDCC option. It's a nice feature and it does make a small improvement, but it's not substantial enough to make the 957 a totally different animal.
I guess it's just another opinion, but I disagree.

The PDCC makes a substantial difference during performance oriented driving IME.



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