2013: Stereo w/o Nav question
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Does anyone have either the base CDR or Bose stereo without the Nav system?
I'm looking at ordering a Diesel, but don't want (and refuse to pay for) the Nav system. What I can gather, however, is that without Nav there is no AUX or USB interface (at least until the optional CDR Plus is available). Is this really true? If I don't get the Nav system is there really no way for me to connect my phone or iPod up to it for music?
Thanks,
-dave
I'm looking at ordering a Diesel, but don't want (and refuse to pay for) the Nav system. What I can gather, however, is that without Nav there is no AUX or USB interface (at least until the optional CDR Plus is available). Is this really true? If I don't get the Nav system is there really no way for me to connect my phone or iPod up to it for music?
Thanks,
-dave
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CDR isnt bad, has bluetooth and aux(3.5mm miniplug) but no USB... also the bluetooth does NOT do audio over bluetooth unless you get bose (PCM without nav)
i burned a CDR w/ Mp3 and had 10+ cd's on one in the CDR.
PCM unit plays DVD-R so can put 80+ cd's on one... but then again it has USB so can use ipod.... but like i said no usb, no audio via bluetooth unless it's a pcm unit (bose/burmeister/nav)
i burned a CDR w/ Mp3 and had 10+ cd's on one in the CDR.
PCM unit plays DVD-R so can put 80+ cd's on one... but then again it has USB so can use ipod.... but like i said no usb, no audio via bluetooth unless it's a pcm unit (bose/burmeister/nav)
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Just curious what you have against navigation? I'm actually the other way around. After 4+ years of Nav in my Mercedes and my Touareg, I think it's handier than a pocket on a shirt - especially the Sirius traffic link. I'm looking forward to #3 when I pick up my new Cayenne next month.
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I didnt include PCM in my GTS order, theres no use for the NAV because our maps are not homologated by Porsche so it wont work. Just the PCM is over $6k, so in my case its very hard to swallow just for an USB input.
Are there any aftermarket interfaces in order to have ipod or USB capabilty?
Are there any aftermarket interfaces in order to have ipod or USB capabilty?
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It feels silly to say it, but being stuck with just CDs without modifying it immediately is a deal killer for me. There is a big difference in modifying a $25k car out of the box and a $65k one, even if I do hope to keep it just as long. Paying this much it's got to be something I'll be happy with, because I can spend a lot less on something that is going to irritate me or outright **** me off every time I get into it.
In general, however, I just don't like it. I am of the "know (at least generally) where you are going before you leave" camp. I also think most of the units (though I will admit I like how the Cayenne will show a small map in the cluster) are a distraction to actually driving. All the people I know that have Nav systems (built-in or Garmin type units) and use them regularly, complain about them (don't like the voice, tells them to turn too early, tells them to turn to late, doesn't have their destination in the system, etc..). And finally, I have a phone that has mapping and direction capability built-in and free if I really need it.
One of the things I love about Porsche is they still let you get exactly what you want on their cars rather than saddling you with crap you don't want just to get the one item you do want.
-dave
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I didnt include PCM in my GTS order, theres no use for the NAV because our maps are not homologated by Porsche so it wont work. Just the PCM is over $6k, so in my case its very hard to swallow just for an USB input.
Are there any aftermarket interfaces in order to have ipod or USB capabilty?
Are there any aftermarket interfaces in order to have ipod or USB capabilty?
The site does say it will be Optional though so some cost will be associated to it which is why I doubt it will be something for me since I have a hard price I'm trying to stay under.
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When is your build date? According to the Porsche USA site a new CDR Plus option will be available on 11/2012 builds that includes USB, album art, and device control. Don't know if that applies to your region too, but if you can wait a few extra months that might be an option for me.
The site does say it will be Optional though so some cost will be associated to it which is why I doubt it will be something for me since I have a hard price I'm trying to stay under.
The site does say it will be Optional though so some cost will be associated to it which is why I doubt it will be something for me since I have a hard price I'm trying to stay under.
No CDR Plus for me, wish I knew that before.
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I didnt include PCM in my GTS order, theres no use for the NAV because our maps are not homologated by Porsche so it wont work. Just the PCM is over $6k, so in my case its very hard to swallow just for an USB input.
Are there any aftermarket interfaces in order to have ipod or USB capabilty?
Are there any aftermarket interfaces in order to have ipod or USB capabilty?
- Porsche Communication Management (PCM) with navigation module,
- Bi-Xenon (TM) headlights with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS),
- Driver Memory Package, Heated Seats (front),
- Moonroof and
- Auto Dimming Mirrors
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Six grand? Do you not have the option to order packages? On my 2013, I ordered the Convenience Package, the Premium Package, and the Premium Plus package. Total $10,160. The first $2160 of that is the Convenience Package. It alone contains
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- Porsche Communication Management (PCM) with navigation module,
- Bi-Xenon (TM) headlights with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS),
- Driver Memory Package, Heated Seats (front),
- Moonroof and
- Auto Dimming Mirrors
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As far as the "$6k" PCM, I think you are also not taking into account that they are listing their location as a different country from you and that region may have entirely different prices.
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No, and I can attest to this because I just bought a 2013:
For $2160 the Convenience package contains
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) with navigation module,
Bi-Xenon (TM) headlights with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS),
Driver Memory Package, Heated Seats (front),
Moonroof and
Auto Dimming Mirrors.
For an additional $3480 ($5640 combined) the Premium package includes
the Convenience package plus
Servotronic, Power Seats (14-way) with Memory Package,
ParkAssist (front/rear) and
Heated Steering Wheel.
For an additional $4540 ($10180 aggregate) the Premium Plus package contains the
Convenience package plus the
Premium package plus
Lane Change Assist,
Rearview Camera,
Electric roll-up sunscreen for rear side,
Light Comfort Package,
Heated Seats (front/rear) and
Seat Ventilation (front).
I ordered the Bose package as well, it's merely coincidence that the price is the same as the Convenience Package. That $5640 you cite is the Premium package, which includes the Convenience package.
Granted there is likely a geographic pricing difference. Nevertheless, it's a bit difficult to accept that geographic differences would explain the four thousand dollar discrepancy between the PCM price (somewhere) and the Convenience package price listed for American sales.
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For $2160 the Convenience package contains
Porsche Communication Management (PCM) with navigation module,
Bi-Xenon (TM) headlights with Porsche Dynamic Light System (PDLS),
Driver Memory Package, Heated Seats (front),
Moonroof and
Auto Dimming Mirrors.
For an additional $3480 ($5640 combined) the Premium package includes
the Convenience package plus
Servotronic, Power Seats (14-way) with Memory Package,
ParkAssist (front/rear) and
Heated Steering Wheel.
For an additional $4540 ($10180 aggregate) the Premium Plus package contains the
Convenience package plus the
Premium package plus
Lane Change Assist,
Rearview Camera,
Electric roll-up sunscreen for rear side,
Light Comfort Package,
Heated Seats (front/rear) and
Seat Ventilation (front).
I ordered the Bose package as well, it's merely coincidence that the price is the same as the Convenience Package. That $5640 you cite is the Premium package, which includes the Convenience package.
Granted there is likely a geographic pricing difference. Nevertheless, it's a bit difficult to accept that geographic differences would explain the four thousand dollar discrepancy between the PCM price (somewhere) and the Convenience package price listed for American sales.
//greg//
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No packages offered on any Cayenne in our market. Not completely sure but I think that no packages are avaliable either for the GTS in the USA.
Just FYI my not so loaded GTS retailed for US$160,000 taxes included, not so bad if you compared it with Hong Kong.
Just FYI my not so loaded GTS retailed for US$160,000 taxes included, not so bad if you compared it with Hong Kong.
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I didnt include PCM in my GTS order, theres no use for the NAV because our maps are not homologated by Porsche so it wont work. Just the PCM is over $6k, so in my case its very hard to swallow just for an USB input.
Are there any aftermarket interfaces in order to have ipod or USB capabilty?
Are there any aftermarket interfaces in order to have ipod or USB capabilty?
You getting ready for the Dakar?
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I could climb any dune I wanted! I just followed my friends Land Cruiser, I did see a lot of other 4x4 vehicules stucked in the middle of nowhere, from Grand Cherokees to Benzes, it was a fun!
We dont have the Porsche Nav but we do those little Garmin devices.
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All the people I know that have Nav systems (built-in or Garmin type units) and use them regularly, complain about them (don't like the voice, tells them to turn too early, tells them to turn to late, doesn't have their destination in the system, etc..). And finally, I have a phone that has mapping and direction capability built-in and free if I really need it.
-dave
-dave