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Old 02-13-2012, 12:01 PM
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Hi All,

I’ve been lurking here for a while and it’s time to break the silence.

I owned a 2004 V8 Touareg and it was a love/hate relationship.
I loved the build quality, the air suspension and the heated steering wheel.
Hated the constant dead batteries.
VW eventually replaced it with a 2006 but I didn’t keep it long because I just didn’t trust its reliability.

I use a wheelchair to get around. I can hobble around to throw my chair in the back and the electric lift gate is high on the list.
So that puts me at 2008 or newer.
I need hand controls to drive, so that makes it a bit of a hassle to change cars.

I’m struggling with my need for speed, reliability, and what I can afford. The afford part is always a pain :^)
The most I can spent is 55k which roughly equates to:

Cayenne S with lower miles.
Cayenne GTS with higher miles.
Cayenne Turbo with higher miles.

Air suspension is a must so that eliminates most of the S’s.
I’m not a big fan of the suede seat inserts in the GTS seats but like them otherwise.
Absolutely love the Turbo.

I see a lot of 2006 and earlier Turbos with very high miles and that is a confidence builder.
The replacement of the plastic water pipes and cardigan shafts on the 2006 and earlier doesn’t scare me much.
I’ve done a lot of reading in the forums and don’t see the reliability problems that plagued the Touaregs.

It looks like I would be going with a 2008 Turbo with ~50k miles.
I would probably drive it to 100k miles and it’s okay if the turbos need service but not the short block.

What do you think of this idea, have I lost my mind?

Is there anything else I need to consider?

I live in Wilsonville Oregon and we used to have a car dealer named “Grand Prix Imports” until the city drove them out.
This really sucks because that would have been a convenient place for service and repairs.

I need to find a good shop in the general area, any suggestions?

Thanks for reading my first, and hopefully not last, post :^)

=Bill
Old 02-13-2012, 12:42 PM
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Old 02-13-2012, 12:58 PM
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Bill, welcome to the P!G pen! If your experience with a first-year build Touareg was a sour one, you can only imagine what issues Cayenne owners had in the first year.

The GTS is a great vehicle all around but you will definitely need to modify the driver's Alcantara seating surfaces so that you could slide in a lot easier. I'm not sure if a pleather seat cover would work or not but it would definitely be worth trying.
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Originally Posted by Andy E.
Bill, welcome to the P!G pen! If your experience with a first-year build Touareg was a sour one, you can only imagine what issues Cayenne owners had in the first year.

The GTS is a great vehicle all around but you will definitely need to modify the driver's Alcantara seating surfaces so that you could slide in a lot easier. I'm not sure if a pleather seat cover would work or not but it would definitely be worth trying.
Hi Andy,

I wasn't sure how bad it was for the very early Cayennes but I think I can guess. I still have flashbacks to seemingly never ending series of error messages that the Touareg displayed at startup

When I look at pictures for Cayennes for sale, I look to see if there is an error on the display...

My thing with the GTS seats is mostly preference, I had a similar thing in a SRT8 Magnum. Great butt grip but they always looked messed up.
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Spend $50k and keep the extra 5 for contingencies. Yeah, 'contingencies' has a nice ring to it.
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The Leather & Alcantara driver's seat in my GTS at 80,000 kms are still in perfect condition not something I could say about the CTTs leather driver's seat at the same mileage.

I prefer the GTS seats in all ways but again down to personal preference.
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Originally Posted by Divot
Spend $50k and keep the extra 5 for contingencies. Yeah, 'contingencies' has a nice ring to it.
I prefer the word 'inevitability'.

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Originally Posted by Divot
Spend $50k and keep the extra 5 for contingencies. Yeah, 'contingencies' has a nice ring to it.
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=no go

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There is this little ditty about 'Bald-Headed John, King of the Plookers.'

John's got a sausage
Yeh man
John's got a sausage
Yeh man
John's got a sausage that will make you fart
John's got a sausage that will break your heart
Make you fart
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Clearly a 2007 P!g is the way to go
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Originally Posted by ltc
Clearly a 2007 P!g is the way to go
Yes. I believe that PAG named the 2007 the "Phantom Edition"...
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I have an 08 ctt that has just over 80k on it and it has been a very good and reliable car.
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@ ltc Good idea, maybe I can get a 1996 Jeep Wrangler to go with it?

I'm in no rush to find a P!G and although my ego says go Turbo, the gts red GTSs are dead sexy. Maybe the suede inserts aren't so bad afterall.
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Originally Posted by alpha2158
I'm in no rush to find a P!G and although my ego says go Turbo, the gts red GTSs are dead sexy. Maybe the suede inserts aren't so bad afterall.
So you start a thread with the title " I want a pig - bad " ... now you say " I'm in no rush to find a P!g "

In reality, you don't really need nor want a Cayenne ...
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Originally Posted by ltc
So you start a thread with the title " I want a pig - bad " ... now you say " I'm in no rush to find a P!g "

In reality, you don't really need nor want a Cayenne ...
Ouch. I do want one bad and I will have one by summer time. Right now I'm in the decision stage and was looking for first hand owner experience.


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