turbostang

Here are some pictures of my radar and laser protection on the Cayenne.

working4it

Very nice!

race3

i'm getting the passport 9500ci as well. do you have any interference with your active cruise control and the passport 9500ci?? thanks.

turbostang

race3,

No interference with the ACC and side assist.
IMO Passport 9500ci laser shifters are too weak. You will need something stronger to protect you against laser threat.
If I can go back in time and install the radar/laser system again. I would choose the Belltronic STI-R over the Passport 9500ci. The difference is Belltronic doesnt come with the laser shifters. You can save a couple hundred dollars and use it on a better laser jammer.

race3

thanks. i have the passport 9500ci system in two other cars and like it. the laser jammers have worked numerous times, so I know they "can" be effective. the gps feature is also really nice for limiting false signals. where are you located?

turbostang

Im in NYC.
The Belltronics have the gps feature too. I been researching between Belltronics STI-R and Passport 9500ci, the Belltronics radar receiver is alot better than the Passport.

My installer for the Laser Interceptor have the LTI Ultralyte police gun. We test it against the Passport and result was disappointing. 2 blocks away and the lidar gun pick up my speed (front and back). Then we test the LI , jam to gun front and back.
If you have time do a research on the Passport laser shifters, the review are terrible. Passport make an excellent radar protection, but the laser jamming imo are to weak.

race3

thanks. i will definitely look into that!

catchacab

The Beltronics STiR+ and the Escort 9500CI are very similar. Beltronics and Escort are two divisions of the same company. Many of the important parts on the STiR and CI are the same, but there are some differences between the two products. The major difference is the amount of options that you can program on the STiR. Withnthe STiR you can turn of RDR (radar detector rejection). What is RDR? Most radar detectors emit radar in the Ka band range. The amount of "leakage" varies by radar detector, however Cobra radar detectors leak a lot of radar, enough radar that is can set off other radar detectors. RDR evaluates the radar signal to determine if it is a real threat or emissions from another radar detector. The problem with RDR, is that it uses a lot of processing power and time of the radar detector. This feature slows down the detector, and can result in it missing some actual police radar signals. Now up you ask why. When most people think about a radar detector, they think it is just sitting there waiting for any radar and it will go off immediately. That isn't the case. Think that you radar detector is a fm radio. You want to listen to AC/DC, but don't know what channel is currently playing on. So you start at 87.9 and scan all the radio stations until you find AC/DC, on the way you find some songs, that you think may be AC/DC, and stop on that station to listen for a short time to determine if it is AC/DC, before determining that it isn't, and then continuing on your way. The other thing, just like your fm radio, radar isn't one, two or even three frequencies. It is many frequencies, that is why they are called radar bands, because the different bands have a range of frequencies. The largest frequency band is Ka. Most of the frequencies in Ka aren't used in the USA. The next option the STiR has is called Ka band segmentation. The three central frequencies used in the US in the Ka band are 33.8, 34.7 and 35.5 GHz. FYI, X band radar is 10.500 - 10.550 GHz, K band 24.050 - 24.250 GHz, and Ka (superwide) band is 33.4 - 36 GHz. You can see how many more frequencies need to be scanned for Ka band and that takes time. So back to our AC/DC example. The only stations that would play AC/DC are from 92.3 to 93.5, 98.9 to 100.3 and 102.3 to 102.7: you wouldn't waste any of your time scanning channels that you know don't play AC/DC. By turning off the Ka band segments that are not used in the US, you are concentrating the radar detector resources on the radar frequencies that are used, thus increasing the percentage of time that the radar detector is scanning the used frequencies. If you are shot with a 33.8 signal but the radar detector is scanning the 10.5 frequency, the radar detector will not go off. The fortunate thing is that radar detectors scan pretty fast, and will catch most radar signals, but not all. With having Ka band segmentation, the chances of catching that signal greatly increase. The STiR has Ka band segmentation, the CI does not.


Turbostang, I think your Escort shifters are towed out.

EnigmaWmn

^^^

Ok, I just read all of that and it's great and stuff. Can you quickly summarize and tell me which one is the bestest, most accurate one out there and one that will allow me to speed in my Turbo P!G on NJTPK and around LI undetected by the popo? Thanks in advance

turbostang

Catchacab,

Thank you for explaining the difference between the Belltronic and Passport. I guess all the extra features are on the Belltronics interface. Im going to try to find a Belltronics interface and swap out the Passport interface.

The Passport shifters are a little toe out. Never had a chance to adjust it since I dont rely on the shifter for laser protection. When I have time I probably just remove the shifters. Is only held on my 3m heavy duty double side tape.

race3

did you buy the standard Laser Interceptor or the "high powered" version? Also, why remove the Passport laser's if they are already there... seems to only help, no?

turbostang

Race3,
I have the high power version. I want a bigger laser jamming coverage, because our cayenne have a bigger center of mass than regular passenger vehicle.

I did lots of research. The passport shifters are not powerful enough to protect me against laser threat. I just want to clean up the front end.
So many gadget clustering on the front grill.

Please note, I did not experience any interference with LI laser jammer and Passport laser shifters.

race3

thanks. it looks like you've found the best tech in radar and laser jamming. i have the 9500ci on my X5 and the laser jamming 'does' work... but perhaps the Laser Interceptor works better, so i may try that on the Cayenne when I get it.

by the way, would you re-order the front / rear skid plates again? i can't decide on that. do you have underbody protection too?

turbostang

On a dark color cayenne. The SS front and back skid plate make the cayenne look so much better. I have no regret. Look at the pictures of the front and rear end. You will see the SS skid plates. Not planning to go off road with the Cayenne. I picked the SS skids plates for looks.

turbostang

Engimawmn, the best laser and radar protection is your right foot. Your right foot control the gas and brake pedal. You can have the best Radar / Laser protection system out there, you can still get caught speeding by either an unmarked vehicle pacing you or aerial patrol.