Newbie has some questions about 2011 Cayenne
#1
Newbie has some questions about 2011 Cayenne
Hi all,
We may look to purchase a 2011 Cayenne S (still debating with X5). Probably will mostly be driven by wife. Plan to be selective about the options. I have several questions:
- Has anyone seen the amethyst color in person? Seems like a feminine color to me. I personally like the Jet Green, but haven't seen it in person and don't know how it looks outside. Below is an indoor photo, it's hard to tell.
- Two tone interior leather: umber/cream: is the cream going to be too easy to get dirty? also considering that the carpet will be cream color. The blue leather seems interesting to me, but I have not seen it in person.
- What's the better chassis upgrade, torque vectoring or dynamic chassis control?
- 20" RS spyder wheels with all season tires: will that be pretty lousy in the snow?
- If you don't order 4-zone climate control, do rear passengers still get air vent?
Thanks.
ManMachine.
We may look to purchase a 2011 Cayenne S (still debating with X5). Probably will mostly be driven by wife. Plan to be selective about the options. I have several questions:
- Has anyone seen the amethyst color in person? Seems like a feminine color to me. I personally like the Jet Green, but haven't seen it in person and don't know how it looks outside. Below is an indoor photo, it's hard to tell.
- Two tone interior leather: umber/cream: is the cream going to be too easy to get dirty? also considering that the carpet will be cream color. The blue leather seems interesting to me, but I have not seen it in person.
- What's the better chassis upgrade, torque vectoring or dynamic chassis control?
- 20" RS spyder wheels with all season tires: will that be pretty lousy in the snow?
- If you don't order 4-zone climate control, do rear passengers still get air vent?
Thanks.
ManMachine.
#2
I am in the process of custom ordering a 2011 Cayenne S for me wife. I tried surfing various dealer websites for the real life pics of their Cayennes in the inventory. Some dealers like Champion Porsche take very high quality pics and post them on their website. Unfortunately most dealers have only the standard colors like silver, grey, black in their inventory. A few here have posted other colors like Umber and Yellow. I am yet to see a Auburn, Green or Amethyst. The Amethyst is very similar to Aubergrine (eggplant in German/French)a very beautiful color on the classic 911. This picture taken by one of the members in the 911 section (who has a showroom condition award winning Venetian blue Carrera 3.2) shows the richness and depth of the purple color. Unfortunately these days such vivid/bright colors are viewed as too polarizing and people stay away from such colors taking resale value into account. Hence no more Tahitian Green, Candy red apple metallic, Sahara Beige, tobacco brown etc (all classic 911 colors).
The umber/cream combo is really beautiful (some high quality pics can be seen on the Porsche website) but it will not work some exterior colors. Likewise the blue would be great but only for certain exterior colors. Oh BTW, the cream will get dirty (unless you are as **** as I am in regular clean-ups). I think the 20 inch Spyder wheels looks and handle very well (just test drove one with that wheel) but your best bet for the snow are the 18 inch wheels. You can get a good 18 inch wheel/tire set up from tirerack (without breaking your bnk) and opt for the 20 inch with summer performance tires for your custom order. I personally think all seasons are no-seasons..with compromise made for both seasons. Why someone would want to get a 100K car/SUV and run them on a compromised set of shoes all year long...I never understood that.
According to several reviews, roll is impressively suppressed due to PDCC and that is the main reason why the 2011 Cayenne turns into a corner more keenly than any other SUV in the market (did I hear you say that you are still considering an X5). The PTV system alters braking on the inside wheel when cornering to allow for more direct, controlled steering response. I think they are both complementary to each other but if I were to choose one over the other it would be the PDCC. If your wife is pretty docile when it comes to driving characteristics, then she will never ever realize the performance benefits of those two options. But be sure to at the very minimum order with PASM.
Finally did you mention that the color of that Cayenne is green. Wow, I need to see a ophthalmologist right away.
The umber/cream combo is really beautiful (some high quality pics can be seen on the Porsche website) but it will not work some exterior colors. Likewise the blue would be great but only for certain exterior colors. Oh BTW, the cream will get dirty (unless you are as **** as I am in regular clean-ups). I think the 20 inch Spyder wheels looks and handle very well (just test drove one with that wheel) but your best bet for the snow are the 18 inch wheels. You can get a good 18 inch wheel/tire set up from tirerack (without breaking your bnk) and opt for the 20 inch with summer performance tires for your custom order. I personally think all seasons are no-seasons..with compromise made for both seasons. Why someone would want to get a 100K car/SUV and run them on a compromised set of shoes all year long...I never understood that.
According to several reviews, roll is impressively suppressed due to PDCC and that is the main reason why the 2011 Cayenne turns into a corner more keenly than any other SUV in the market (did I hear you say that you are still considering an X5). The PTV system alters braking on the inside wheel when cornering to allow for more direct, controlled steering response. I think they are both complementary to each other but if I were to choose one over the other it would be the PDCC. If your wife is pretty docile when it comes to driving characteristics, then she will never ever realize the performance benefits of those two options. But be sure to at the very minimum order with PASM.
Finally did you mention that the color of that Cayenne is green. Wow, I need to see a ophthalmologist right away.
#3
Oh boy, where do I start. If this is your first Porsche (I smell it is), become an educated consumer. ReSEARCH! When it comes to Porsches, the base models (even the S) are very "bare". No leather, no nav, no self dimming mirrors, no 6cd in dash, no sunroof, ...you get the point. Toyota Sienna has ventilated seats as standard equipment, we pay for floormats. My advice, go the Porsche site and "build your own" Cayenne. Pay attention to standard equipment. Then, chose your options carrefully. Its easy to double the price with all the options available. Print it out, take it to your dealer, and ask to see these options on other cars (possibly on a few different ones). That will help you sort your wants vs needs. Then test drive as many versions as you can. Every new Porsche model is an engineering masterpiece. You might find a regular Cayenne (not even an S) with regular suspension to be miles ahead of the X5. Or the opposite.
Maybe you should ask what options are considered desirable/must have.
P.S. Money no object? Buy a loaded Turbo! (loaded means over $30K in options)
Maybe you should ask what options are considered desirable/must have.
P.S. Money no object? Buy a loaded Turbo! (loaded means over $30K in options)
#5
Hi all,
Thanks for the feedback. We currently have a 5 series E60 so it's natural to consider the X5. When we buy a car we usually keep it for a while. X5 has been on the market for sometime while 2011 Cayenne is new, so I might guess there could be some issues with early builts.
Having some experience with the BMW ordering process, we'd certainly custom order the Cayenne. The standard package that we plan to get is the Premium Package. Add on two tone leather, RS spyder wheel, parking assist/camera, torque vectoring, metallic color, the final total comes to 20K worth of options. Probably won't bother with air suspension and dynamic control due to wife's driving it on regular roads only.
I'd appreciate your thoughts about Jet Green with umber/light tartufo (my choice). I guess the purple works fine with light interior also. I also like cognac but have to see it in person.
Good point about getting winter wheels/tires. Thanks.
Thanks for the feedback. We currently have a 5 series E60 so it's natural to consider the X5. When we buy a car we usually keep it for a while. X5 has been on the market for sometime while 2011 Cayenne is new, so I might guess there could be some issues with early builts.
Having some experience with the BMW ordering process, we'd certainly custom order the Cayenne. The standard package that we plan to get is the Premium Package. Add on two tone leather, RS spyder wheel, parking assist/camera, torque vectoring, metallic color, the final total comes to 20K worth of options. Probably won't bother with air suspension and dynamic control due to wife's driving it on regular roads only.
I'd appreciate your thoughts about Jet Green with umber/light tartufo (my choice). I guess the purple works fine with light interior also. I also like cognac but have to see it in person.
Good point about getting winter wheels/tires. Thanks.
#6
With respect to the Jet Green color, make sure your Cayenne is a lease otherwise if you purchase, you may have serious issues trying to resell a green truck down the road.
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#8
We plan to keep the car for some time so not worried about resale.
I need to do more research about PTVplus vs. PDCC. PTVplus seems to provide some benefits off road (just in case), while the dynamic control requires the additional air suspension so it's a 7K option.
I need to do more research about PTVplus vs. PDCC. PTVplus seems to provide some benefits off road (just in case), while the dynamic control requires the additional air suspension so it's a 7K option.
#11
Hi all,
Thanks for the feedback. We currently have a 5 series E60 so it's natural to consider the X5. When we buy a car we usually keep it for a while. X5 has been on the market for sometime while 2011 Cayenne is new, so I might guess there could be some issues with early builts.
Thanks for the feedback. We currently have a 5 series E60 so it's natural to consider the X5. When we buy a car we usually keep it for a while. X5 has been on the market for sometime while 2011 Cayenne is new, so I might guess there could be some issues with early builts.
Regarding the X5, heres what I said on another forum:
We spent a weekend with the new; LCI, BMW X5 xDrive 40. There is a noticeable chassis/suspension improvement. According to the salesman all models now have the same basic chassis setup as the ///M model. The new engine is superb, better than the VW/Audi unit in the Cayenne. As a package though we preferred the new Cayenne Diesel. Despite being down on power it just seems keener, the steering more accurate and communicative. In comparison the BMW interior looks a little bland and the new Cayenne definitely looks and feels smaller on the road, which is a plus from our point of view.
I think Porsche had some catching up to do and with the new Cayenne, I think they've done it. It's a much tougher choice now. Ultimately it's likely to come down to the nuances of each approach.
I think Porsche had some catching up to do and with the new Cayenne, I think they've done it. It's a much tougher choice now. Ultimately it's likely to come down to the nuances of each approach.