my first speeding ticket in 14 years
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Burning Brakes
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After 14 years since my last speeding ticket cop's laser radar clocked my Cayenne at 92-93-94 mph while several other cars were around me. Ticket was issued for 94mph![crying](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif)
My friend, sitting in the rear R seat, said he never saw me doing more than 80-82 mph ( I was busy telling a funny joke)... I know I did break the speeding limit posted 65 mph... but my questions are:
How accurate are these laser radars?
Is it possible for the laser beam to bounce off another car?
should I try going to court and fight for a lesser charge? would it matter even if they agree to the lesser speeding? my main concern being the resulting auto insurance surcharge.
TIA.
Sam
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My friend, sitting in the rear R seat, said he never saw me doing more than 80-82 mph ( I was busy telling a funny joke)... I know I did break the speeding limit posted 65 mph... but my questions are:
How accurate are these laser radars?
Is it possible for the laser beam to bounce off another car?
should I try going to court and fight for a lesser charge? would it matter even if they agree to the lesser speeding? my main concern being the resulting auto insurance surcharge.
TIA.
Sam
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In my experience (in Mass Courts), where you are prepared to admit to the speeding (I was speeding just not speeding as much they say I was), the court may not look too favoraby upon your defense and assess additional court cost along with the fine. In Mass that fine is $100, plus $10/mph over 10mph above the posted limit, plus a $50 head injury surcharge. Your ticket in Mass would have been $340.00.
You could attempt to argue that the radar gun was faulty, but PDs have gotten wise to that, and have their guns calibrated regularly. You would need to hire an expert to review the gun's logs to determine if the calibration was done properly, and that will not be cheap.
In Mass you are looking at 1 point on your SDIP for the speeding ticket because you weren't cited for reckless driving, or driving to endanger.
If you don't mind telling, was it a Mass State Trooper, or town PO?
You could attempt to argue that the radar gun was faulty, but PDs have gotten wise to that, and have their guns calibrated regularly. You would need to hire an expert to review the gun's logs to determine if the calibration was done properly, and that will not be cheap.
In Mass you are looking at 1 point on your SDIP for the speeding ticket because you weren't cited for reckless driving, or driving to endanger.
If you don't mind telling, was it a Mass State Trooper, or town PO?
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A ticket in the Cayenne and not the 996TT? Good God man... what's the matter with you?
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After 14 years since my last speeding ticket cop's laser radar clocked my Cayenne at 92-93-94 mph while several other cars were around me. Ticket was issued for 94mph![crying](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif)
My friend, sitting in the rear R seat, said he never saw me doing more than 80-82 mph ( I was busy telling a funny joke)... I know I did break the speeding limit posted 65 mph... but my questions are:
How accurate are these laser radars?
Is it possible for the laser beam to bounce off another car?
Sam
![crying](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/bigcry.gif)
My friend, sitting in the rear R seat, said he never saw me doing more than 80-82 mph ( I was busy telling a funny joke)... I know I did break the speeding limit posted 65 mph... but my questions are:
How accurate are these laser radars?
Is it possible for the laser beam to bounce off another car?
Sam
Its tough to beat a LIDAR ticket. Good luck to you.
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In my experience (in Mass Courts), where you are prepared to admit to the speeding (I was speeding just not speeding as much they say I was), the court may not look too favoraby upon your defense and assess additional court cost along with the fine. In Mass that fine is $100, plus $10/mph over 10mph above the posted limit, plus a $50 head injury surcharge. Your ticket in Mass would have been $340.00.
You could attempt to argue that the radar gun was faulty, but PDs have gotten wise to that, and have their guns calibrated regularly. You would need to hire an expert to review the gun's logs to determine if the calibration was done properly, and that will not be cheap.
In Mass you are looking at 1 point on your SDIP for the speeding ticket because you weren't cited for reckless driving, or driving to endanger.
If you don't mind telling, was it a Mass State Trooper, or town PO?
You could attempt to argue that the radar gun was faulty, but PDs have gotten wise to that, and have their guns calibrated regularly. You would need to hire an expert to review the gun's logs to determine if the calibration was done properly, and that will not be cheap.
In Mass you are looking at 1 point on your SDIP for the speeding ticket because you weren't cited for reckless driving, or driving to endanger.
If you don't mind telling, was it a Mass State Trooper, or town PO?
Sam
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The laser device (LIDAR) is very accurate. Typically, a beam width for the laser is 3 feet wide at 1000 feet out. Some newer devices have a smaller beam. The LIDAR has an aiming dot that the officer looks through a sighting device. The officer places the dot on the vehicle, pulls the trigger and gets a speed reading. The LIDAR is target specific. The laser beam does not bounce off other objects or vehicles. If the LIDAR does not receive its reflected signal, it will not give a speed reading.
Its tough to beat a LIDAR ticket. Good luck to you.
Its tough to beat a LIDAR ticket. Good luck to you.
Thanks for the info.
Sam
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Depending on what your SDIP(lower the better) is, and how many years of incident free driving you have (generally you "lose" a point for every policy year of good driving, down to a minimum of 9), this may not have any effect on your insurance costs. However, this incident will stay with you for 7 policy years, in case you act up again, and get caught.
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Do you have a safe driver discount on your insurance policy? Discount may be removed because of the ticket. Over 3 years, the cost can be substantial.
IMO, fight every ticket every time.
IMO, fight every ticket every time.
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