I have been reading on other forums that some people are carrying a full size (or even non standard spare) tire in their rear cargo space in their Cayennes.

I just treated several passengers involved in an MVA (non Porsche) but they had a full size tire in the rear of their SUV. 1 rear passenger had a direct blow to the occipital skull -closed head injury- DOA. The other two rear passengers had multiple facial fractures and one had a basilar skull fracture as well with CSF leak and a c-spine injury.

Any wheel not completely secured and bolted down will just become a massive projectile in an accident. I have the smaller Bose sub in my '04 Cayenne and had no spare until two days ago. I too was frustrated that an automobile costing over $100,000 did not come with a spare. I never even thought of ordering it as an option b/c I foolishly assumed that there would be one. I then thought that a spare wouldn't fit b/c of the subwoofer and I investigated the option of building a rear false deck about 11" above the normal floor (reducing cargo space) which would have had a hinged top and would have housed a full wheel/tire. But the wheel would be bolted down in the design. I didn't necessarily want to sacrifice space so went to the dealer to remove the sub and fortunately I was in the situation to fit a spare properly over the smaller sub.

Happy & safe driving to all through the holidays.

P.S. I know that my previous excessive speed post met with some criticism I should practice what I am preaching right?? I will save this stuff for some DE times in a more controlled environment. How are the Porsche DE's?? worthwhile? a waste? expensive? I am very curious. A freind who I did residency with has just moved about 15 minutes from me and he has a CT and Boxster S. I wanted to maybe go with him regularly and use these trips as "business deductions"!

 

PCA DE's are a lot of fun. Great people, great cars, great tracks. Makes learning fun. Highly recommended. Contact your local PCA region and talk to the track chair. Find out if they have 'ground school' for novices (Northeast Region does), meet some of the people who run the program (all volunteers, they do it because they want to), meet some drivers, etc.

If you really get hooked (and I've never seen anyone walk away from their first DE and NOT come back), you can always consider Skippy School, or the Porsche Driving Experience down at Barber.

 

Thanks for sharing this with us. It is sad you had to see the result of someone's carelessness, but maybe your post will save a life.

 

GREAT IDEA.. The Barber track just east of Birmingham is world-class.. yes, you read that right.. the guy spent $35M and it has a museum and an incredible hilly awesome lay-out .. Porsche was not foolish to move it here...

KOOSER - I for one was critical of the excessive speed and the jocular nature of your post and the kid from Franklin.. now, knowing you're a doctor, it is not surprising. It seems aviators (I are one?) and docs tend to push the envelope when it comes to speed. It blows me away how many Docs smoke!? Thanks for re-thinking and maybe saving a life with your "change of heart" post. I know for me it just took a few years of teen drivier kids and a few "scares" to sober me to the fact that idiots are on the road and while you may be very capable at 100 plus.. the fact remains that we have no idea what a car in front of you is going to do. Truckers commonly refer to "idiots" as "hood wear"..

So, as we explained in one post.. the old farts here generally try to trade info and keep people from doing what you just described. Now.. for those that are p.o.'ed at Porsche for not having a spare on the early runs.. you may have just saved a life. I don't have a spare and have the big sub-woofer. So, for those who have that situation, here's what I decided. In small leaks you have time to get back to the tire shop or dealer.. major leaks you have some time and the compressor on the back to limp to a station.. for blow-outs.. I bought, from the dealer, their tire/rim insurance.. it was not expensive (300 or so?) and covers any tire or rim for 5 years. I have had to replace 2 flat tires in 2 1/2 years at 200 plus a tire and it has been covered 100%.. so, since it covers the wheel rims too.. if I have a "bad" flat.. I will drive miles on the rim to limp to the next exit.. knowing full well that I have the insurance. Now, after five years.. welllll, next question?

Can you even remove the subwoofer and not screw up the Bose (not sound) like it won't work at all?

 

Yes, you can unplug the Bose 'subwoofer'.....they prefer to call them "ampducers"....transducers wtih built in amplifiers (in this case a 100Watt Class D switching amplifier).....with no electrical effects to the system (there is no communication from the main DSP MOST amplifier and the 'subwoofer'.
The only effect will be a loss of low frequency (sub 100Hz) audio response.

Or so I am told

 

The collapsible spare is a very snug fit in the rear of my 928, however I will use the lockdown bolt/plate from now on - Thanks.

 

The insurance that you have is a great option, I never even thought to ask my dealer whether they offer a similar arrangement - but won't they consider driving on a wheel as "abuse" and not a manufacturing defect or noraml wear and tear? Will they then not cover the damage to the wheel as a result?

Just curious