No, I wouldn't slam anyone, really. Slam a vehicle, slam a company, but no one on the forum. If it comes across that way, it's purely unintentional.
The price drop is simply because it's an overproduced, mass marketed POS wearing a Porsche crest. It's more VAG than PAG. Take one apart sometime and look at the P/N's and markings. Work with Porsche when designing a new car, read some specifications....you get the idea.

(without getting Alan Greenspan on the phone, the same overproduction mentality has affected the 996TT as well. Did you ever think you'd see 996TT depreciation as large/quick as has been experienced lately, especially compared to a 993TT? No big surprise, make 10's of thousands of something and they're quickly a dime a dozen)

I'm sure it's just the meds that makes the 'noteable exception' so much fun.

 

Interesting, I bought an Acura MDX when my Grand Cherokee transmission broke at 30,000 miles because Consumer Reports recommended Acura for reliability, safety, etc, although I wanted a Cayenne. Consumer Reports did not recommend the Cayenne based on the reliability/repair history of the pepper. What's funny is, I still want a Cayenne (I love Porsches) and I am reading this and it sounds like Consumer Reports might have been right if you guys are calling it a POS, what a shame.

 

Don't be tainted by all that you read here. Not everyone is dissatisfied with their Cayenne. I personally am thrilled with mine... I've had it for several months now, with 6,000 miles, with no problems whatsoever.

I frankly don't understand why there are folks that continue to drive/own a vehicle that they despise. If a vehicle bothered me that much, I'd sell it or trade it in... rather than constantly b*tch and moan about it or its problems on an internet forum. A little bit of discussion is okay... but when just about every post or response contains sarcasm and hatred, I personally find such dialogue quite tiring. But maybe that's me... I tend to be more optimistic and positive about life.

So... keep in mind that this forum only represents a small portion of the large number of Cayenne owners out there. Don't make your decision based solely on the opinions expressed in this forum. Do plenty of research, and test drive the various models... then make your decision.

As Alex stated, the Cayenne is an all-around great vehicle. I agree... it is definitely a vehicle worth consideration.

Good luck.

 

Jim,
Am I correct in that you are referring to me?
If so, and if you don't understand why I would continue to drive/own a vehicle that I despise (or is simply a continuous disappointment), then why not just ask, either in a post or in a PM? I'll answer just about any question.

I don't really think of it as b*tch and moan, more like sarcastic humor, but that's just me.
If I've become tiring, then please petition our Moderator to ban me from the forum, or post a poll asking the same question. I'll abide by either outcome.

True, this forum does represent a very small percentage of Cayenne owners, especially given the targeted demographic chosen by PAG in the marketing of the vehicle.

However, the majority of forum members refuse to accept the candid opinions expressed in JDPowers, Consumer Reports, et. al., regarding the reliability of the Cayenne. Even when confronted with simple facts and data, they get defensive, almost protective of the Cayenne.

Then, when an aftermarket insurance company stops issuing aftermarket warranties for the Cayenne (as recently discussed), everyone refuses to ask why. Simple, the Cayenne is a longterm warranty liablity. Simple facts and figures, no emotion.

So, when someone asks a question, which is preferred?
To paint a rosy picture, which may be hard to back up with facts and figures
or
Simply share your experience/knowledge/opinion and let the buyer decide.

Ciao

 

2 years 42,000 mi w 2 issues that were fixed promptly. Misaligned tires (got 4 new ones free) from the factory and and electronic update for hesitation.

That said, you're probably right not to buy an S or Turbo. Stay away from them - Owners have reportly gotten a buzz in their gut at 120-130 mph in an SUV, and they tended to take sweeps at high speed to keep the thrill alive. This activity resulted in wrinkles from the broad smiles and smug satisfaction they experianced.

Good thing they don't make another SUV like it...

 

No... not necessarily you... although you certainly are the most vocal about your disappointment, so I can see why you or anyone might think I meant you. I'm sorry if this leaned in your direction... I perhaps should have tried to be more generic.

I've seen this type of disdain in many forums, not just this one. I previously owned an Audi allroad... and I saw the same type of postings and attitude as well. I've seen it on many other forums as well, from Audis, to VWs, to Subarus etc. So... my comment had universal intention... I'm sorry if it didn't come across that way.


It's a matter of semantics and interpretation I suppose. Some may find it humorous... others spiteful and negative. Nonetheless, it is what it is... no matter how the dialogue is labeled.

Naw... no need to change. After all, who am I to ask for censorship? I have no more right to restrict your speech than anyone else.

Many folks find your posts entertaining... as the bright spot of their day. I certainly do not wish to deny anyone their vice or pleasure. (As well, I wish not to curb your enthusiasm, regardless of its tone or intention.)

Naw... remain true to yourself... I'm okay with it all. No need to alter any behavior.

Of course, one never knows... I may jump on your bandwagon someday... once my supply of Kool-Aid runs out. Right now, with only a few months and a few thousand miles on my Cayenne, I still have a big supply of the Purple Elixir!!

True... but such denial can be found across many marques and vehicles. It is not unique to Porsche and the Cayenne. Sure, I'll admit... someday I may fall victim to the same denial... but right now, the honeymoon phase is not yet over. My Cayenne is still thrilling me each day... and we have not yet gotten into our first argument.

True... it surely says a lot... but not that much more than some other vehicles. I'm pretty confident that allroad owners have experienced the same... aftermarket warranties are either no longer available or prohibitively expensive, due to the complexity of the vehicle and the cost to fix them. I know firsthand... I bought one with over 50k miles, and I ended up trading it towards the Cayenne due to fears of non-warranty repairs.


Certainly the latter. I suppose I was just reacting to your calling the Cayenne an overpriced POS. IMHO, that is a bit harsh. If someone asks a question, they certainly should receive candid feedback, but IMHO, it should include the good and the bad. That way the individual can weigh out the pros and cons and make an educated, informed decision.