Porsche and Hybrid?!
09-18-2005 | 10:50 AM
#1
Thread Starter
Cruisin'
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Porsche and Hybrid?!
Audi Q7 Hybrid: share hybrid tech with Porsche
Audi Q7 Hybrid, if it really go into production, will be the first production hybrid power vehicle by European car makers. So far, hybrid technology has been dominated by the Japanese, but I believe the super engineering power of Volkswagen group has the ability to catch up. In fact, they have track record for overtaking the Japanese in direct gasoline injection technologies.
The Q7 Hybrid concept car weighs as much as 2.4 tons, therefore fuel saving technology is definitely important. Its petrol powerplant is the same 350hp 4.2 FSI V8 as the regular Q7. An electric motor capable of delivering 43 hp and 147 lbft is mated to the engine via an electro-hydraulic clutch, and then transmit the power to the 6-speed Tiptronic transmission. Like Toyota Prius, the hybrid system can operate with either the V8 and the electric motor alone, or both providing the thrust. Without the electric motor, the engine can do 0-100 km/h acceleration in 7.4 seconds. Adding the motor power and it reduces to 6.8 seconds. The hybrid system is expected to cut fuel consumption by 13%.
Interestingly, Audi / Volkswagen will share this technology with Porsche Cayenne. Porsche was previously rumoured to ask for Toyota's licensing, but in the end a deal with its long-time giant partner VW is definitely more attractive.
................After that, i hope porsche built in the future own hybrid or electric engines!!! I hate it, a porsche with audi or vw engine. What do you think, is porsche able to make own off these engines????
i wanna see an PORSCHE-ENGINE with hybrid or elecric technologie in an carrera or something. That thing must go....
Audi Q7 Hybrid, if it really go into production, will be the first production hybrid power vehicle by European car makers. So far, hybrid technology has been dominated by the Japanese, but I believe the super engineering power of Volkswagen group has the ability to catch up. In fact, they have track record for overtaking the Japanese in direct gasoline injection technologies.
The Q7 Hybrid concept car weighs as much as 2.4 tons, therefore fuel saving technology is definitely important. Its petrol powerplant is the same 350hp 4.2 FSI V8 as the regular Q7. An electric motor capable of delivering 43 hp and 147 lbft is mated to the engine via an electro-hydraulic clutch, and then transmit the power to the 6-speed Tiptronic transmission. Like Toyota Prius, the hybrid system can operate with either the V8 and the electric motor alone, or both providing the thrust. Without the electric motor, the engine can do 0-100 km/h acceleration in 7.4 seconds. Adding the motor power and it reduces to 6.8 seconds. The hybrid system is expected to cut fuel consumption by 13%.
Interestingly, Audi / Volkswagen will share this technology with Porsche Cayenne. Porsche was previously rumoured to ask for Toyota's licensing, but in the end a deal with its long-time giant partner VW is definitely more attractive.
................After that, i hope porsche built in the future own hybrid or electric engines!!! I hate it, a porsche with audi or vw engine. What do you think, is porsche able to make own off these engines????
i wanna see an PORSCHE-ENGINE with hybrid or elecric technologie in an carrera or something. That thing must go....
09-18-2005 | 03:42 PM
#2
Thread Starter
Cruisin'
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
SEP. 12 9:40 A.M. ET German automakers Volkswagen AG, Audi AG and Porsche AG said Monday at the International Auto Show in Frankfurt they would work in tandem to develop a new fuel-efficient hybrid engine for their automobiles.
Complete details of the new program weren't revealed, nor was a timeline, but the move comes less than a week after BMW AG said it would join with General Motors Corp. and DaimlerChrysler AG to develop their own hybrid engine.
Audi, a part of Wolfsburg-based VW, Europe's biggest automaker, said it would take the lead in the development of the new hybrid
Complete details of the new program weren't revealed, nor was a timeline, but the move comes less than a week after BMW AG said it would join with General Motors Corp. and DaimlerChrysler AG to develop their own hybrid engine.
Audi, a part of Wolfsburg-based VW, Europe's biggest automaker, said it would take the lead in the development of the new hybrid
09-18-2005 | 04:52 PM
#3
Official Wednesday AM Red Bull F1 test driver
Rennlist Member
Rennlist Member
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 10,064
Likes: 987
From: North Scottsdale
We have some friends with a new Lexus SUV hybrid and it isn't getting any better mileage than their old regular Lexus 330 or 400 SUV ( I don't keep track of all their model numbers as I could care less)... is it worth all the hassle????
09-20-2005 | 01:11 AM
#5
Advanced
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 70
Likes: 0
From: Seattle, WA
I test drove the new lexus 400h. It was almost exactly like driving my explorer. It felt exactly like what non Cayenne owners have come to expect from an SUV. When I pulled up to the lexus store in my Cayenne, of course they were on me like a hobo on a ham sandwich. I guess I was a qualified lead. After the lack luster test drive, I realized that Lexus has some work to do.
So, I drove off in my Porsche-to the nearest petro station that is........
So, I drove off in my Porsche-to the nearest petro station that is........
09-26-2005 | 02:07 PM
#6
Racer
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 280
Likes: 0
From: San Clemente, CA
An interesting development...Porsche just announced they are going to purchase 20% interest in Volkswagen. One of the motivators is the increasing level of joint Porsche/VW technology development. Evidently Porsche wants to protect its interests.
09-26-2005 | 03:06 PM
#7
Nordschleife Master
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 8,537
Likes: 72
From: great white north
The fuel economy with the lexus comes from city driving. Stop and go traffic where the electric engine is used mostly. On the highway it mostly uses the gasoline engine and it practically is the same as the non-hybrid for fuel consumption.
We all know that almost any car doing high-way driving it a lot better on fuel then driving around in the city. Where fuel consumption in that type of driving could double that of highway driving.
Though if your doing 0-60 starts in a hybrid your not going to benefit from the hybrid technology because your using the gasoline engine when you do that.
Personally I think it great for city driving where we have smog alerts in the cities and where we can benefit the most is causing less pollution. It can save a little $$ on gas but not enough to substantiate the cost that they are charging us when compared to the non-hybrid version.
I think it is a great thing in the long run for the environment but the consumer won't save any money by driving one. We as the consumer shouldn't have to pay more for a hybrid.
We all know that almost any car doing high-way driving it a lot better on fuel then driving around in the city. Where fuel consumption in that type of driving could double that of highway driving.
Though if your doing 0-60 starts in a hybrid your not going to benefit from the hybrid technology because your using the gasoline engine when you do that.
Personally I think it great for city driving where we have smog alerts in the cities and where we can benefit the most is causing less pollution. It can save a little $$ on gas but not enough to substantiate the cost that they are charging us when compared to the non-hybrid version.
I think it is a great thing in the long run for the environment but the consumer won't save any money by driving one. We as the consumer shouldn't have to pay more for a hybrid.