Jacking and Jack Stands
#17
I'm with Mudman on this.
Jack it up just like you would a 996.
Put the jack under the rear lift point, raise that side, put the stand under the front lift point, then move to the other side or the car and repeat.
Jack it up just like you would a 996.
Put the jack under the rear lift point, raise that side, put the stand under the front lift point, then move to the other side or the car and repeat.
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Accomplished the deed just as I described. Do yourself a favor though, and get a real jack to do the job rather than the factory jack. I had the car up on jack stands for about a week without incident.
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#21
Burning Brakes
Just to pull this one out from under the dust.
So, yesterday I was working around taking care of the front control arms (rubber aged, liquid dripping out, …). So off they come and they are in the workshop now. At the same time, I’m replacing the flexible brake lines and dust boots on the ball joints/tie rods, … together with some other while I’m in theres.
So the front of the car was on 3 Ton jack stands (2) and the pivot bearing resting on two other jack stands. Then I proceeded to jack up the rear. First, tried with my little alligator jack (works fine for my 964, but the 955 is a different animal). Couldn’t get the car up high enough from the center jacking point. So moved to the side jacking points (where I can get the jack stands in place next to the jack -> I have factory aluminum side skirts/step boards, perhaps that is why they fit) and still didn’t have the reach to get it off the ground.
Then tried the factory supplied jack -> WARNING: this is a BAD, BAD idea. The car moved about 2 inches sideways before I managed to drop it back to the ground. Fortunately nothing happened.
So now I’m wondering how to deal with this.
Options:
1/ Wait until the front arms are back in place, drop the front and move to the rear
2/ Do 1, then lower the air suspension as low as possible, jack it up again as my main jack will get the car up high enough, do rear first, then move to front
3/ Get a bottle jack with the reach -> easy to get more reach by putting something underneath it (doesn’t sound like a good idea to me)
Can someone confirm number 2 is not a problem with the Cayenne?
Any other suggestions?
So, yesterday I was working around taking care of the front control arms (rubber aged, liquid dripping out, …). So off they come and they are in the workshop now. At the same time, I’m replacing the flexible brake lines and dust boots on the ball joints/tie rods, … together with some other while I’m in theres.
So the front of the car was on 3 Ton jack stands (2) and the pivot bearing resting on two other jack stands. Then I proceeded to jack up the rear. First, tried with my little alligator jack (works fine for my 964, but the 955 is a different animal). Couldn’t get the car up high enough from the center jacking point. So moved to the side jacking points (where I can get the jack stands in place next to the jack -> I have factory aluminum side skirts/step boards, perhaps that is why they fit) and still didn’t have the reach to get it off the ground.
Then tried the factory supplied jack -> WARNING: this is a BAD, BAD idea. The car moved about 2 inches sideways before I managed to drop it back to the ground. Fortunately nothing happened.
So now I’m wondering how to deal with this.
Options:
1/ Wait until the front arms are back in place, drop the front and move to the rear
2/ Do 1, then lower the air suspension as low as possible, jack it up again as my main jack will get the car up high enough, do rear first, then move to front
3/ Get a bottle jack with the reach -> easy to get more reach by putting something underneath it (doesn’t sound like a good idea to me)
Can someone confirm number 2 is not a problem with the Cayenne?
Any other suggestions?
#23
Burning Brakes
Mudman… I thought to just proceed that way as well… but had to learn the hard way.
Problem is that the car is in normal setting and I can’t get the back high enough off the ground to get the wheels off. She keeps resting on the ground.
That’s why I thought the lower setting would be a better option. But I’d like someone to confirm that… or tell me that’s not a great idea either.
Just picked up the control arms, so worst case, I’ll get the front back together, drop the front, do the rear brake lines, bleed rears, then take front back up and bleed the front brakes.
Not exactly the efficiency I hoped for.
Problem is that the car is in normal setting and I can’t get the back high enough off the ground to get the wheels off. She keeps resting on the ground.
That’s why I thought the lower setting would be a better option. But I’d like someone to confirm that… or tell me that’s not a great idea either.
Just picked up the control arms, so worst case, I’ll get the front back together, drop the front, do the rear brake lines, bleed rears, then take front back up and bleed the front brakes.
Not exactly the efficiency I hoped for.
#24
Race Director
Just to pull this one out from under the dust.
So, yesterday I was working around taking care of the front control arms (rubber aged, liquid dripping out, …). So off they come and they are in the workshop now. At the same time, I’m replacing the flexible brake lines and dust boots on the ball joints/tie rods, … together with some other while I’m in theres.
So the front of the car was on 3 Ton jack stands (2) and the pivot bearing resting on two other jack stands. Then I proceeded to jack up the rear. First, tried with my little alligator jack (works fine for my 964, but the 955 is a different animal). Couldn’t get the car up high enough from the center jacking point. So moved to the side jacking points (where I can get the jack stands in place next to the jack -> I have factory aluminum side skirts/step boards, perhaps that is why they fit) and still didn’t have the reach to get it off the ground.
Then tried the factory supplied jack -> WARNING: this is a BAD, BAD idea. The car moved about 2 inches sideways before I managed to drop it back to the ground. Fortunately nothing happened.
So now I’m wondering how to deal with this.
Options:
1/ Wait until the front arms are back in place, drop the front and move to the rear
2/ Do 1, then lower the air suspension as low as possible, jack it up again as my main jack will get the car up high enough, do rear first, then move to front
3/ Get a bottle jack with the reach -> easy to get more reach by putting something underneath it (doesn’t sound like a good idea to me)
Can someone confirm number 2 is not a problem with the Cayenne?
Any other suggestions?
So, yesterday I was working around taking care of the front control arms (rubber aged, liquid dripping out, …). So off they come and they are in the workshop now. At the same time, I’m replacing the flexible brake lines and dust boots on the ball joints/tie rods, … together with some other while I’m in theres.
So the front of the car was on 3 Ton jack stands (2) and the pivot bearing resting on two other jack stands. Then I proceeded to jack up the rear. First, tried with my little alligator jack (works fine for my 964, but the 955 is a different animal). Couldn’t get the car up high enough from the center jacking point. So moved to the side jacking points (where I can get the jack stands in place next to the jack -> I have factory aluminum side skirts/step boards, perhaps that is why they fit) and still didn’t have the reach to get it off the ground.
Then tried the factory supplied jack -> WARNING: this is a BAD, BAD idea. The car moved about 2 inches sideways before I managed to drop it back to the ground. Fortunately nothing happened.
So now I’m wondering how to deal with this.
Options:
1/ Wait until the front arms are back in place, drop the front and move to the rear
2/ Do 1, then lower the air suspension as low as possible, jack it up again as my main jack will get the car up high enough, do rear first, then move to front
3/ Get a bottle jack with the reach -> easy to get more reach by putting something underneath it (doesn’t sound like a good idea to me)
Can someone confirm number 2 is not a problem with the Cayenne?
Any other suggestions?
#25
Burning Brakes
Thanks guys... I'll drop the suspension to load mode, switch off "regulation" and get her in the air completely.
All my tools were purchased with the 911 in mind... didn't think at the time I'd have a Cayenne for the family next to the 911.
All my tools were purchased with the 911 in mind... didn't think at the time I'd have a Cayenne for the family next to the 911.
#26
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Make sure you use at least a 3 ton floor jack....I first used 1.5 ton one that I use for the 911.
the floor jack bent and the cayenne landed on the floor...luckily it was before I removed the tire so no harm
the floor jack bent and the cayenne landed on the floor...luckily it was before I removed the tire so no harm
#28
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The lift points defined in the Owner's Manual are too close to each other to permit lifting with a jack, then resting the vehicle onto jack stands.
The rear jack location, that I found to be acceptable is on the rear axle sub-frame, on the curved section, below the front of the rear axle, where the drive shaft enters.
The rear jack location, that I found to be acceptable is on the rear axle sub-frame, on the curved section, below the front of the rear axle, where the drive shaft enters.
Read this article.
From the linked article: "Because of the proximity of the two rear jacking points, there is no place to use a floor jack and then also place a jack stand. Porsche realized this problem and issued a technical service bulletin advising to jack the rear of the car up from the rear subframe point (green arrow) directly under the differential mount."
From the linked article: "Because of the proximity of the two rear jacking points, there is no place to use a floor jack and then also place a jack stand. Porsche realized this problem and issued a technical service bulletin advising to jack the rear of the car up from the rear subframe point (green arrow) directly under the differential mount."
#30
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