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Old 06-27-2014, 03:42 PM
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Default change IMS single row to new double row kit

I decided to be preventive and go for this new kit.
..But: nothing in stock at suppliers.
Why running advertizing for something not available ??
Car is now locked at my mechanician, taking space waiting for "next" shipment.
Does "so many" of you did decided already for this kit ???
Old 06-27-2014, 03:45 PM
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I mean "this" kit

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I think "so many" may be an overstatement.

I think a lot of people don't worry that much about it. I haven't run the numbers, but I'm sure that you're much more likely to total your car in an accident or die of a heart attack from stress then to have your IMS fail.

This is based on pure observation. I see many more posts about people wrecking their Boxsters then having an IMS fail...many more.

Regarding your issue finding the bearing, why did you not have one on hand before you took your car to the shop?
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..because before removing the original one, ..you have no way to be sure what you have in place ! (a single or a double row.)
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There are ways, but I see your dilemma.

That's too bad.
I wish you the best of luck.
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Has your installer checked with SSF ? I believe they are the primary distributor.
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thanks, I have to check, but right now had a direct contact with Jake, so if one men knows where to find a kit, it should be him first, we are lucky that he is often on our forum AND be so nice and fast in responses
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Try Pedros Garage and look at the variety of kits he has. He has a good reputation
http://www.pedrosgarage.com/Site_2/TechnoFix_DOF.html
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..but no product that would upgrade a single row M96 engine into a double row !!!
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did you scroll down to the bottom of that page? there are 4 different bearings offered. With the lubrication of the bearing resolved, the number of rows of the ***** and ceramic/steel is possibly moot?
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Default IMS bearing solutions

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Try Pedros Garage and look at the variety of kits he has. He has a good reputation
http://www.pedrosgarage.com/Site_2/TechnoFix_DOF.html
Is Pedros Garage's DOF different than TuneRS? http://tunersmotorsports.com/?page_id=103
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It looks like the same product but I do not know what commercial connection Pedro & TuneRS have.
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Well, may be I was nor clear enough in my above posts, sorry for that.
I do not want to have an upgrade to an oil feed bearing.
I want to upgrade the Single Row bearing that I have OEM, ..by a Ceramic Double Row kit.
To my knowledge ONLY IMS Solution do offer this option.
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Yes Tuners and Pedros are the same.

In the case of the single to dual conversion and the DOF, have either of those kits had enough installs that have been in owner's cars for long enough that you have confidence that they work? Since parts are only part of the expense, confidence in the part you are installing would seem to help the decision. Sample sizes in the double digits doesn't tell me much. And I don't see the 6 forums I watch filled with stories of installs of either.

And particlewave, if you know of a way to absolutely and positively tell what bearing is in the engine before removing the transmission, please tell the community. No one else knows including shops that have done hundreds of these swaps.
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GVA,
You may want to research the lubrication requirements of steel vs. ceramic bearings -they are quite different. It has been discussed at length.
It would be easy to replace an IMS as a routine with each clutch change ,so perhaps an everlasting bearing is a an unnecessary objective ? A steel ball bearing+DOF kit may be more than adequate? This has been discussed many times here and elsewhere.
I applaud your zeal in hunting down and fixing one of the "Modes of Failure". Unfortunately there are at least another 23 not just the IMS .We need to focus on them all .


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