Poll: Would you take a Boxster with a Carerra engine over a Carerra or even a Turbo?
08-10-2002, 10:02 PM
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Only trouble with trying twin turbos on a 3.4 or 3.6 in a Boxster is fitting the intercoolers without disturbing the rear profile of the boxster by adding a large wing to cover this. I really like to maintain the stock exterior of the car and not ruin the beautiful lines with a massive flat deck cooling wing.
TTP claims to have twin turbo kits for Boxster 2.5, 2.7, 3.2 and they even offer a kit that bores a 3.2 our to 3.4 and twin turbos it !! They do not have a picture of the rear of their car however. I also do not know about their track record or history so you may need to be concerned about flying debris !!
<a href="http://www.ttp-sportscar.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ttp-sportscar.com/</a>
I've got a 3.4 Boxster for now and loving every bit of it. I'm going to follow these guys for a while to see what their Twin Turbo Boster development brings and think about it next year. I'd be curious to see if anyone has experience with ttp.
TTP claims to have twin turbo kits for Boxster 2.5, 2.7, 3.2 and they even offer a kit that bores a 3.2 our to 3.4 and twin turbos it !! They do not have a picture of the rear of their car however. I also do not know about their track record or history so you may need to be concerned about flying debris !!
<a href="http://www.ttp-sportscar.com/" target="_blank">http://www.ttp-sportscar.com/</a>
I've got a 3.4 Boxster for now and loving every bit of it. I'm going to follow these guys for a while to see what their Twin Turbo Boster development brings and think about it next year. I'd be curious to see if anyone has experience with ttp.
08-11-2002, 03:04 PM
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I have owned 2 911s and have driven but not buying the boxster. I think a 986 is a more modern sport car, one which makes you feel good about the car. However, the 911(air-cooled) will make you feel good about yourself, which is a deciding factor when I made the purchase.
I dare to say that you can have similar driving "feeling" in other modern sports car that compares to a 986, but the "feeling" of a 911 is totally different and unique. And let me also say this, you will have fun in either cars: the differnt is that the boxster is for those who think they can drive and the 911 is for those who know they can drive.
My humble opinion.
I dare to say that you can have similar driving "feeling" in other modern sports car that compares to a 986, but the "feeling" of a 911 is totally different and unique. And let me also say this, you will have fun in either cars: the differnt is that the boxster is for those who think they can drive and the 911 is for those who know they can drive.
My humble opinion.
08-11-2002, 04:53 PM
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964, your a trolling flamer. You no not of which you speak. anyways, TTP uses water cooled intercoolers that are attached to the firewall in the rear trunk. the rear trunk even with the intercooleris still quite usable. My boxster S gives me the light and nimble feeling of my 69 911S race car. A 996 gives be the feeling of 928GTS, Both are great. Both are different. Both are equal. Both are used for different events.
08-11-2002, 08:56 PM
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Nice call Robert. <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" /> Please provide all info you can on ttp twin turbo install. I would greatly appreciate it as all I have seen to far is on the website and that is very limited.
Do you have any Pictures?
Thanks Dave
Do you have any Pictures?
Thanks Dave
08-11-2002, 11:30 PM
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Last time I talked to the TTP folks in the US, the TT Boxster was running around $22K !!! and as Robert said you give up part of your rear trunk.
I guess those big boat 996's just have a lot more dead space in them...
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I guess those big boat 996's just have a lot more dead space in them...
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08-12-2002, 06:39 PM
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well, I talked to Guenther ( formerly of TTP) and he said that now on the new single and twin turbo kits they put the water cooled intercoolers in the rear fenders just behind the tail lights and ontop of the wheel well. He said that there is all sorts of unused space there. So now you can have your rear trunk untouched.
08-12-2002, 11:45 PM
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That sounds like a hell of clever install. I would love to see some pictures of that. What about other plumbing for the intercoolers (remote radiators) are there any?
How many TT 3.4 boxsters has TTP done? Any articles in excellence or European car yet?
How many TT 3.4 boxsters has TTP done? Any articles in excellence or European car yet?
08-13-2002, 12:54 AM
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Hey Robert, see if Guenther can figure out how to slap a larger supercharger on the 3.2L as well... evidently TPC says you can't go larger, but I disagree and think there must be a creative solution out there...
08-13-2002, 02:26 AM
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yeah, TTP does all of Gemballa performance mods. Also TTP won the german tuner championship from 2000 to 2002 with their Boxsters. Guenther is hard ot get ahold of.TTP provides alot of performance mods for other tuners in the US and Germany. Most of these tuners would have you beleive that they researched these mods themselves.
08-15-2002, 09:57 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by RobertG:
<strong>In Germany there are plenty of Boxsters with GT3RS and 3.6L engines. Lots of German tuners are cranking them out.These are some of my pics of my my sleeper.
.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Robert - what is a sleeper?
<strong>In Germany there are plenty of Boxsters with GT3RS and 3.6L engines. Lots of German tuners are cranking them out.These are some of my pics of my my sleeper.
.</strong><hr></blockquote>Robert - what is a sleeper?
08-15-2002, 05:08 PM
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I am certainly not an engine or TurboCharging guru, but I thought that turbocharging such high compression motors was not a good thing to do.
Do these kits that TTP and TPC put on Boxsters change out the heads, pistons, etc...to lower the compression ratio.
I am interested in the Turbo kit for my 2002 2.7L. Now that would be a nice sleeper! Especially since the base Boxsters get majority of the shaft all the time. Heck, I love my 2.7L as it is my daily driver and fun to drive.
<img src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" border="0" alt="[blabla]" />
Do these kits that TTP and TPC put on Boxsters change out the heads, pistons, etc...to lower the compression ratio.
I am interested in the Turbo kit for my 2002 2.7L. Now that would be a nice sleeper! Especially since the base Boxsters get majority of the shaft all the time. Heck, I love my 2.7L as it is my daily driver and fun to drive.
<img src="graemlins/a_smil17.gif" border="0" alt="[blabla]" />
08-15-2002, 07:01 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Ken2KS:
<strong>I think this is what the 911 owners don't realize is that the Boxster is a better balanced car and given enough horsepower would leave the 911 wanting on the track. Porsche didn't build its next supercar the Carrera GT on the Carrera platform (they didn't build it on the Boxster platform either) but rather chose a mid-engine Boxster-like design for it.
Porsche isn't going to kill its bread and butter 911 so you'll never see a 300+ HP Boxster from Stuttgart (or Finland) until the standard Carrera is over 350HP. The 911 simply makes up for its inherent design flaws through additional HP and a few other "goodies".
If I had the funding I'd put a 911 race motor in a Boxster and enter it at LeMans and clean up in the GT class, might even take out a few GTS cars as well.
I saw this knowing full well some 911 owners might get upset. Hey I like the 911, I'd love to have a 993 or 996 TT to jet around in, no doubt, but when I step back and look at it from which platform would I take to build a race car from if money were no object, I'd take the Boxster for its superior handling characteristics. It's simply a matter of physics.
Oh yeah, I could get a tan in the Boxster too...
Ok off my
<img src="graemlins/soapbox.gif" border="0" alt="[soapbox]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
This sounds like the same arguments when the 914-6 came out:
- aerodynamically more efficient
- better handling
- better dynamic characteristics
It's deja-vu all over again
Heck, 914's still clean up at racetracks/autocross events.
The Boxster was based on the success of the 914 too.
<strong>I think this is what the 911 owners don't realize is that the Boxster is a better balanced car and given enough horsepower would leave the 911 wanting on the track. Porsche didn't build its next supercar the Carrera GT on the Carrera platform (they didn't build it on the Boxster platform either) but rather chose a mid-engine Boxster-like design for it.
Porsche isn't going to kill its bread and butter 911 so you'll never see a 300+ HP Boxster from Stuttgart (or Finland) until the standard Carrera is over 350HP. The 911 simply makes up for its inherent design flaws through additional HP and a few other "goodies".
If I had the funding I'd put a 911 race motor in a Boxster and enter it at LeMans and clean up in the GT class, might even take out a few GTS cars as well.
I saw this knowing full well some 911 owners might get upset. Hey I like the 911, I'd love to have a 993 or 996 TT to jet around in, no doubt, but when I step back and look at it from which platform would I take to build a race car from if money were no object, I'd take the Boxster for its superior handling characteristics. It's simply a matter of physics.
Oh yeah, I could get a tan in the Boxster too...
Ok off my
<img src="graemlins/soapbox.gif" border="0" alt="[soapbox]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
This sounds like the same arguments when the 914-6 came out:
- aerodynamically more efficient
- better handling
- better dynamic characteristics
It's deja-vu all over again
Heck, 914's still clean up at racetracks/autocross events.
The Boxster was based on the success of the 914 too.