Confused on engine replacement costs. Help please.
#1
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Confused on engine replacement costs. Help please.
Hi Guys,
I've been searching the internet and the forum for the last hour and feel like I'm more confused than when I started. I race an '04 Boxster S as an F class PCA car. I'd like to understand my options on an inevitable engine replacement. Obviously I can buy a used 2004 Boxster with low miles for around $10k, but I'm curious about a "factory new" engine. I hear other folks with SPB say they have a factory new engine sitting on their shelf. Where did they get such? How much do they cost? What about the short block discussion going on in the 996 forum. Is buying a block from Porsche directly now a cheaper option? Charles from LN Engineering mentioned that purchasing a block would not be cheaper because of all the other parts needed? What did he mean? How much would that option end up costing?
Anyways, any clarification on my options for a PCA legal replacement engine and where to get it would be much appreciated.
JP
P.S. I'm not a DiYer so whatever replacement option I choose would be done by Speed Sport Tuning of Danbury, CT.
I've been searching the internet and the forum for the last hour and feel like I'm more confused than when I started. I race an '04 Boxster S as an F class PCA car. I'd like to understand my options on an inevitable engine replacement. Obviously I can buy a used 2004 Boxster with low miles for around $10k, but I'm curious about a "factory new" engine. I hear other folks with SPB say they have a factory new engine sitting on their shelf. Where did they get such? How much do they cost? What about the short block discussion going on in the 996 forum. Is buying a block from Porsche directly now a cheaper option? Charles from LN Engineering mentioned that purchasing a block would not be cheaper because of all the other parts needed? What did he mean? How much would that option end up costing?
Anyways, any clarification on my options for a PCA legal replacement engine and where to get it would be much appreciated.
JP
P.S. I'm not a DiYer so whatever replacement option I choose would be done by Speed Sport Tuning of Danbury, CT.
#3
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If you are racing you need ARP rod bolts, only way to get them is install by hand, so you might as well install in the engine you have while rebuilding the engine. Then you know what you have & what it's limitations are.
#4
Race Director
Hi Guys,
I've been searching the internet and the forum for the last hour and feel like I'm more confused than when I started. I race an '04 Boxster S as an F class PCA car. I'd like to understand my options on an inevitable engine replacement. Obviously I can buy a used 2004 Boxster with low miles for around $10k, but I'm curious about a "factory new" engine. I hear other folks with SPB say they have a factory new engine sitting on their shelf. Where did they get such? How much do they cost? What about the short block discussion going on in the 996 forum. Is buying a block from Porsche directly now a cheaper option? Charles from LN Engineering mentioned that purchasing a block would not be cheaper because of all the other parts needed? What did he mean? How much would that option end up costing?
Anyways, any clarification on my options for a PCA legal replacement engine and where to get it would be much appreciated.
JP
P.S. I'm not a DiYer so whatever replacement option I choose would be done by Speed Sport Tuning of Danbury, CT.
I've been searching the internet and the forum for the last hour and feel like I'm more confused than when I started. I race an '04 Boxster S as an F class PCA car. I'd like to understand my options on an inevitable engine replacement. Obviously I can buy a used 2004 Boxster with low miles for around $10k, but I'm curious about a "factory new" engine. I hear other folks with SPB say they have a factory new engine sitting on their shelf. Where did they get such? How much do they cost? What about the short block discussion going on in the 996 forum. Is buying a block from Porsche directly now a cheaper option? Charles from LN Engineering mentioned that purchasing a block would not be cheaper because of all the other parts needed? What did he mean? How much would that option end up costing?
Anyways, any clarification on my options for a PCA legal replacement engine and where to get it would be much appreciated.
JP
P.S. I'm not a DiYer so whatever replacement option I choose would be done by Speed Sport Tuning of Danbury, CT.
I would have to believe this price has gone up and would be even more for a newer engine with more displacement.
But of course you can get a quote by visiting your local Porsche dealer parts department. If the engine is installed by an authorized dealer I believe it comes with a 1 year labor 2 year 24K miles parts warranty.
#6
So where to get a used engine is here. Basically a list of P-car specializing wrecking yards. Now what you should do and can do for your racing class I'll leave to the racers.
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#8
I recently wrote to RND inquiring about a rebuilt engine for my '02 S model. Here's what I got in return:
We currently have an M96.21 engine in stock that is ready to ship. The cost of this clearance engine is $8500 including freight to commercial address in the COTUS 48 states (liftgate or residential extra). Core charge is reduced to $1000 - we will not ding you for the cracked head(s).
Engine is sold without warranty due to clearance pricing. A 2 yr / unlimited mile parts warranty is available for $5000.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know. Thank you for the opportunity to serve you. We can get an engine out to you asap. If you are ready to purchase, please let me know and I can get the ball rolling.
Sincerely,
Charles Navarro
RND Engines
You read that right - $8500 for the engine with NO WARRANTY WHATSOEVER.
We currently have an M96.21 engine in stock that is ready to ship. The cost of this clearance engine is $8500 including freight to commercial address in the COTUS 48 states (liftgate or residential extra). Core charge is reduced to $1000 - we will not ding you for the cracked head(s).
Engine is sold without warranty due to clearance pricing. A 2 yr / unlimited mile parts warranty is available for $5000.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know. Thank you for the opportunity to serve you. We can get an engine out to you asap. If you are ready to purchase, please let me know and I can get the ball rolling.
Sincerely,
Charles Navarro
RND Engines
You read that right - $8500 for the engine with NO WARRANTY WHATSOEVER.
#9
Rennlist Member
I recently wrote to RND inquiring about a rebuilt engine for my '02 S model. Here's what I got in return:
We currently have an M96.21 engine in stock that is ready to ship. The cost of this clearance engine is $8500 including freight to commercial address in the COTUS 48 states (liftgate or residential extra). Core charge is reduced to $1000 - we will not ding you for the cracked head(s).
Engine is sold without warranty due to clearance pricing. A 2 yr / unlimited mile parts warranty is available for $5000.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know. Thank you for the opportunity to serve you. We can get an engine out to you asap. If you are ready to purchase, please let me know and I can get the ball rolling.
Sincerely,
Charles Navarro
RND Engines
You read that right - $8500 for the engine with NO WARRANTY WHATSOEVER.
We currently have an M96.21 engine in stock that is ready to ship. The cost of this clearance engine is $8500 including freight to commercial address in the COTUS 48 states (liftgate or residential extra). Core charge is reduced to $1000 - we will not ding you for the cracked head(s).
Engine is sold without warranty due to clearance pricing. A 2 yr / unlimited mile parts warranty is available for $5000.
If you have any further questions, please feel free to let us know. Thank you for the opportunity to serve you. We can get an engine out to you asap. If you are ready to purchase, please let me know and I can get the ball rolling.
Sincerely,
Charles Navarro
RND Engines
You read that right - $8500 for the engine with NO WARRANTY WHATSOEVER.
This is no different than if an independent shop or a DIY customer buys a crate engine from Porsche or now shortblock. Those are sold sans-warranty unless you have the dealership build and install it.
#10
Rennlist Member
Hi Guys,
I've been searching the internet and the forum for the last hour and feel like I'm more confused than when I started. I race an '04 Boxster S as an F class PCA car. I'd like to understand my options on an inevitable engine replacement. Obviously I can buy a used 2004 Boxster with low miles for around $10k, but I'm curious about a "factory new" engine. I hear other folks with SPB say they have a factory new engine sitting on their shelf. Where did they get such? How much do they cost? What about the short block discussion going on in the 996 forum. Is buying a block from Porsche directly now a cheaper option? Charles from LN Engineering mentioned that purchasing a block would not be cheaper because of all the other parts needed? What did he mean? How much would that option end up costing?
Anyways, any clarification on my options for a PCA legal replacement engine and where to get it would be much appreciated.
JP
P.S. I'm not a DiYer so whatever replacement option I choose would be done by Speed Sport Tuning of Danbury, CT.
I've been searching the internet and the forum for the last hour and feel like I'm more confused than when I started. I race an '04 Boxster S as an F class PCA car. I'd like to understand my options on an inevitable engine replacement. Obviously I can buy a used 2004 Boxster with low miles for around $10k, but I'm curious about a "factory new" engine. I hear other folks with SPB say they have a factory new engine sitting on their shelf. Where did they get such? How much do they cost? What about the short block discussion going on in the 996 forum. Is buying a block from Porsche directly now a cheaper option? Charles from LN Engineering mentioned that purchasing a block would not be cheaper because of all the other parts needed? What did he mean? How much would that option end up costing?
Anyways, any clarification on my options for a PCA legal replacement engine and where to get it would be much appreciated.
JP
P.S. I'm not a DiYer so whatever replacement option I choose would be done by Speed Sport Tuning of Danbury, CT.
#11
$8500 including freight. Really seems like a good deal. I went to their website and noticed that engines used for racing were not eligible for a warranty. Kinda puts the accountability in the owner's/racer's hands.
It's not in my plan, but if I were serious about racing, I'd probably try to scrape up enough to buy 2.
It's not in my plan, but if I were serious about racing, I'd probably try to scrape up enough to buy 2.
#12
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$8500 including freight. Really seems like a good deal. I went to their website and noticed that engines used for racing were not eligible for a warranty. Kinda puts the accountability in the owner's/racer's hands.
It's not in my plan, but if I were serious about racing, I'd probably try to scrape up enough to buy 2.
It's not in my plan, but if I were serious about racing, I'd probably try to scrape up enough to buy 2.
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my recommendation is go with a good quality done right reman from RND, especially at that price and run driven race oil. I have a customer that is now over 300 race hours (not track hours, rather race hours)on his RND 2.7 with ZERO issues.