October Fastrack: The 996 Twin Turbo has been proposed to be classed in SS starting 1/1/17

It doesn't have the suspension adjustability of the GT3, right? Seems kinda like a "We'll we can all agree it doesn't have a chance and no one will run one so well just add it" thing. Or am I wrong?

 

The C7z looks like the pony to pick in SS cost no object, but the class tends to be pretty weak on average.

I'd totally run a 996tt if I could afford one, but mostly because I just want one.

 

It's just because it was embarrassing to call it an ASP car anymore. It doesn't have anything a c4s doesn't have other than the turbos, so no trick suspension bits. It will be worthless in SS and honestly probably wouldn't be competitive in AS either.

 

They also shot down moving the 997 base to AS since a 997 base and a 997 GT3 are on the same performance level.

 

Still no word on moving 987.2S from SS to AS, either. Because obviously a 09 Cayman S is so much faster than an 08 Cayman S that it should be classed with GT3, GTR and C7 Z06.

I think 996TT will be just fine in the middle of the pack in SS. If nothing else, it just LOOKS friggen awesome. Man, why couldn't every 996 & 986 look that good?

 

Makes sense to me, since that performance level is super broad: basically, everything potentially faster than a C5 Z06.

I don't think a 997 would outrun a Z06, but I think it's perfectly reasonable for the SAC to not want to take the risk.

 

I can see that they don't want to upset the apple cart. But what was it the top 9 spots at the nationals was a C5. So is the C5 the car to have in AS or is it a overdog. Being new to the sport I'm not sure the answer to that question so don't take it the wrong way.
So the only way is to get a top driver in a 997 base and get his butt kicked. Why would he if he knew his was going to get his butt kicked. Catch 22.

 

I talked to Dreyfus at Wilmington who was co-driving a C7Z. He did not have nice things to say. The fancy electric diff that works so well on track? Didn't work on the autocross. The power was huge, but he couldn't get it down. He and the owner both are good drivers yet got creamed by older Corvettes in both AS and BS.

A friend tried his 996TT at our test & tune earlier this year. Very frustrating: turbo lag that he doesn't notice on the street bugged him and understeer was really bad.

 

Bingo.

 

Well, the C5 is an excellent chassis, plentiful, fun, cheap to purchase, and cheap to run. No surprise several classes are either built around it or are favorable for it. Just like there's 8,000 classes where Miatas are competitive.

Interesting. Wonder if it just needs some tires, prep, and experience? I've seen a few "regular" Stingrays run locally unprepped and they look quite competent.



I've heard from several people that the 996tt is super understeery. Can that be reduced via the common AX tricks? I've always said if my car's value and 996tt values ever intersect, I'm making the jump.

 

Couple thoughts here, some insight I can provide though I'm no longer on the SAC.

1. 996T unfortunately understeers badly stock. I've run one several times and it's a completely point and shoot car unless you put some really good shocks on it and then its a point and shoot car still.

2. The 997 base out of SS to AS didn't happen because there is a goal to generate some stability. The SEB can't constantly be moving cars as they know it will hurt participation because people will be concerned about their shiny new investment for AS being constantly threatened by these moves. It's definitely on their radar, and in my very personal opinion, will happen along with the 987S to AS, just be patient. People here often whine about Porsches not being classed properly, think of the 996T move a step in the right direction, especially for Pros.

 

Hi Tom I don't think this a Porsche issue it's a SS issue. With new hot and faster cars every year and some cars staying to long at the party, is what it looks like. I'm sure if we looked other makes are in the same boat.

 

Definitely an SS issue. None of the cars that can run near the top of SS nationally will ever be largely popular cars due to costs and practicality. I hope the class survives but I'm guessing the smart thing to do would be to move AS cars to SS, ban the cars too fast to make that class fun and build a new AS with the cars too slow for SS at that point like the 997/987 and similar. Easier said than done when the people who would be in line to be banned like the 997 GT3 are upset and rightfully so.

 

Do you think there is a chance C5Z/C6Z will move to SS _and_ the 987.2S will move down to AS, or is it either/or?

 

I don't see a good reason why they would mess with AS. They probably safely could even put the Elise there but I doubt they'll change much other than move the safe cars down from SS.