I am just dreaming... As far as tooling, this is the best i can do for ES class other than a lot of seat time, right?

- start with a non-sunroof, manual, non-ac, non-power basic 83 944.
- a lot of seat time
- 16x7 fuchs with 225/50R15 Revival
- koni sport all 4 corners
- manual steering rack (83 options)
- manual early sport seats
- sway bar update (23mm and 14 mm I believe. I can swap out either one of them right?)
- ploy bushing for all sway bars and front control arm.
- LSD transmission swap (m220 option)
- “lower” rear with that big rear trail arm bolt
- alignment the ___ out of it.
- a hell lot of seat time
- a lot more seat time
- more seat time

Am I breaking any rules?

 

I'm not familiar with all the options available in 1983, but anything you use would have to have been available that year, from the factory.

Other than that:

-You cannot change control arm bushings. OEM only.
-You can only make sway bar changes on one end of the car. So pick one, and you can change the bar, bushings, and endlinks. Other end must remain OEM.
-Wheels have to be OE width, within 1" of OE diameter, and within 6mm of OE offset.

In order of importance:
1. Seat time
2. Tires
3. Seat time
4. Alignment
5.-19. Seat time
...
20. Shocks

I wouldn't worry about anything else on your list. Hopefully we'll finally get a chance to swap cars for a few runs this season.

 

Excellent and sage advice

 

I'm not sure if you're asking "I've got an '83 944; what can I do to prep it?" or "if I want the best possible ES 944, what should I start with?"

If the latter, the '83 is not necessarily the only / best choice. Here's an old, relevant thread from another forum: http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/aft/8581.

 

rennlister johntorg has my old '89 set up for ES with m030, LSD, club sports, and sport seat. He pulled the engine for his race car, though.

The Fordahls had an 83 that was everything-delete that they ran for awhile many years ago.

 

This is the one I would go for - bigger engine, better options.

Etiher way you're going to get slaughtered by the Miatas in ES.

You'll find out rather quickly that Porsches are not competitively classed in the SCCA.

 

Didn't know about the bushing rule... luckily I haven't been buying bushings yet. I am just daydreaming about my list. I will be very likely working on #1, 3, 5-19 on your list If I get the time this year... Maaaaay be #2 but still debating rather I should spend $ on tire. I know I can still learn a lot running my all-season....

Its more of a day dreaming of what is the "perfect ES 944" Looks like the perfect ES 944 is a 924...

I have slaughtered by not only Miatas with beat-up suspensions, I also got slaughtered by couple MR2s. But it has a lot to do with the driver (which is me). And I don't really care

So..... everything-delete 944 or 2.7L 944 with all the goodies? :P

 

The 2.7 held its own on bigger, more open courses on airstrips. The LSD is a MUST HAVE. The m030 allowed for lots of lowering and lots of camber! Just not enough stiffness. The thing rolled so much under cornering and braking.

 

There was a day when they were more favorably classed......
911 Nat'l Champ in AS - 1988, 1989, 1990
944 " - 1997
968 " - 1998, 1999
Boxster " - 2001
993 " - 2005
944 Nat'l Champ in BS - 1995, 1996
944T " - 1989
914 Nat'l Champ in CS - 1991, 1992, 1993

 

A lot of 944 owners weren't alive in those years.

 

The counterargument is that the 944 hasd already been out of production for 6 years by the time it took its last jacket.

The SCCA doesn't make much effort to keep 24 year-old cars competitive in Street, nor should it with only nine classes to choose from.

 

So you're saying they should add more classes?

:ducks:

 

The newest 924 is 27 years old, and the newest 944 is 24 years old. With a 30-year sunset, it won't be long until 924/944/968 aren't permitted to compete in Street in national competition at all.

'83 944 is already not legal nationally due to age.

 

Like Classic American Muscle, we need Classic Sports Car......

 

It's called "Prepared"

By that time Boxsters will be $5,000 and Caymans will be $10,000. We'll be ok.