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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by knfeparty
Has anyone put in a request to the SEB to allow IMS retrofits?
No need, there was a new rule change quietly slipped into the May fastracks that appears to allow IMS retrofits and other industry standard repairs that have no competitive advantage. It would take a total dick to protest for an IMS anyhow.

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“All repairs must comply with factory-authorized methods and procedures, or industry standard methods, as follows: If the OEM does not provide an appropriate method of repair, industry standard methods and procedures may be used. Such repairs may not result in a part or combination of parts that provides a competitive advantage (e.g. significant change to weight, suspension control, power, etc.) as compared to the standard part(s). Competitors are strongly cautioned to use this allowance to make common-sense repairs only.”
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sjfehr
R-S3 V1 or V2? This'll be my first year, too; I'm really looking forward to it. I'll be running Dunlop ZIIs; they hate heat, but the stiff sidewalls compensate somewhat for soft springs and lack of camber. So I spray. And spray. And spray some more!
V2's. I have yet to autocross on them so I'll definitely need the test & tune day. I'm running V1's now, which are pretty bad in the wet and/or cold.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by peallens
Correct the 996TT & 997TT should go to SS. Neither will be top cars in SS anyway.

Since the C5 Corvette is in STU, why not the 996? The 996 benefits from more camber and stiffening the mac strut, but the C5 is still better balanced and can exploit the wheel/tire rules better.

The Boxster gains more from the ST ruleset than the 996, but still won't be an overdog in STR.
I wrote a letter last month with both of these suggestions (STR 986 / STU 996.) My request denial will be in the next fast track.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by knfeparty
STR 944 and old school 911s.
Wait, who you calling old school?
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by msterling
I almost never get wheel spin coming out of a turn. I wonder what causes it with your car. We should have similar power (SW chip and stock exhaust). I run competitive times for my class. My co-driver doesn't spin the tires and he is often faster than me (durn whippersnaper son). Maybe I will start burning rubber with the 17" but that seems counterintuitive given the higher gearing. Do jamb it into first gear or stay in second like I do?
Flexible cars don't have as much of an issue with picking up inside rear tires.
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by kjchristopher
Flexible cars don't have as much of an issue with picking up inside rear tires.
Sounds like a backhanded compliment but you could be right. My cab flexes more than a coupe but not as much as you might think. The later cabs (mine is an '88) had more structural reinforcement than earlier ones. A triangulated strut bar helps a bit in the front.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Browsing the rulebook today, I see listed in CS "928 (all)"

It would be kick *** to show up in an 89-91 928 GT (330hp 5.0L V8, 9" wide rear wheels, sport suspension, LSD) and park next to all the FR-Ss in grid. People would be scrambling to check the rulebook.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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SEB usually has pretty good rationale when classing cars, and 928 has been classed in CS as far back as I have rulebooks handy for. What makes the 928 so slow at autocross?
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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It would be course dependent. Aren't late model GTS's around 3600lbs?

Is the 370z also in CS? I'm no nissan fanboi, but I'd choose the smaller 370z over the 928, and a base MX5 over both of them.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 05:56 PM
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How many people here run 944/968's? Boxster/Coxster's? 911's?

I used to have a 986s and now have a 996. I find the 996 more entertaining to drive. I honestly prefer the rear engine.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by allen_skillicorn
It would be course dependent. Aren't late model GTS's around 3600lbs?

Is the 370z also in CS? I'm no nissan fanboi, but I'd choose the smaller 370z over the 928, and a base MX5 over both of them.
I actually am a big 370z fan, but still think a late 928 would be really cool to see. Actually, I don't think I've ever seen a 928 up close - only a rare casual passing on the road.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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I've run my '90 964 C2 since 1999 in SCCA stock classes. Started as an AS car, now it's in CS......the old days on Hoosier A6's was a lot of fun!
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by burglar
When is the 986 going to be allowed in STR?
Given that it was put out for member comment earlier this year and then withdrawn, not in the foreseeable future.

Originally Posted by burglar
How about a 996 in STU?
Likely the same answer as above for the same reasons.

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Is a 997.2 GT3 going to take SSR at nationals this year? If so, will it be booted from the class?
No -- with all due respect to the 997 GT3 drivers out there, the top talent signed up in SSR is all in Vettes or a 996 GT3 with the number 186 on the side.
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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 03:31 PM
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Getting close to the kones matters:



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Old Aug 10, 2014 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by allen_skillicorn
Correct the 996TT & 997TT should go to SS. Neither will be top cars in SS anyway.
I'm pretty confident that the 996TT and 997TT are excluded from SS because they're AWD; ditto the R8 and GT-R.

I wouldn't be so quick to write off their chances in SS, especially on street tires.
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