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Old 11-21-2013, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by abqautoxer
GT3 gearing is astronomically high. They do it to shorten it up.
Most m/t p-cars are good for 70+ MPH in 2nd.. depending on how fast your local events are, I'd go straight to 285/30-18 & pick the shortest od front to match.

Does the +/-1" rule apply at either end or require all 4 wheels to be equally up/down sized? a 235/40-17 on 17x8 would provide the desired stagger, ~9" wide contact patch, & allow overall CG reduction of ~3/4" when combined w/ the 285 rear..
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Originally Posted by ToSi
Most m/t p-cars are good for 70+ MPH in 2nd.. depending on how fast your local events are, I'd go straight to 285/30-18 & pick the shortest od front to match.

Does the +/-1" rule apply at either end or require all 4 wheels to be equally up/down sized? a 235/40-17 on 17x8 would provide the desired stagger, ~9" wide contact patch, & allow overall CG reduction of ~3/4" when combined w/ the 285 rear..
Yes, you can mix-and-match which wheels you +/-1", but if you go this route, then you're limited to a 17x8 front wheel and an 18x9 rear wheel (+/- 1" from the OEM 18x8 / 18x9 combo,) which IMO is a bit narrow for most 285/30-18 street tires.

If you start with the 19" XRR option, however, then you can +/- 1" your way into an 18x8.5 / 18x10 combo, which will work much better with most 285/30-18 rear tires.
Old 11-22-2013, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Audii-Dudii
Yes, you can mix-and-match which wheels you +/-1", but if you go this route, then you're limited to a 17x8 front wheel and an 18x9 rear wheel (+/- 1" from the OEM 18x8 / 18x9 combo,) which IMO is a bit narrow for most 285/30-18 street tires.

If you start with the 19" XRR option, however, then you can +/- 1" your way into an 18x8.5 / 18x10 combo, which will work much better with most 285/30-18 rear tires.
Not for the 997... The stock wheels are 19x8 & 19x11. The XRR wheels are 19x8.5 & 19x11.5. So no 17 inch dia wheel for me.

I believe that if I elect to run the 8.5 width up front (to fit a 255), I also have to run the 11.5 at the rear. My concern is I think the 11.5 is too wide for a 285 tire.
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Correct you have to use the same wheel option front and rear before electing to go +/- 1" at either end.

Yes 285 on 11.5 is fine, actually quite ideal for a picky tire like the RS-3.

Example of a 285 on 11. Note Extreme Summer tires tend to measure wider than more others so your fitment might be similar:

https://rennlist.com/forums/10714404-post8.html
Old 11-22-2013, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mport68
Not for the 997... The stock wheels are 19x8 & 19x11. The XRR wheels are 19x8.5 & 19x11.5. So no 17 inch dia wheel for me.
Um, yeah ... I keep thinking in terms of Cayman not Carrera.

I'll be quiet now...
Old 11-23-2013, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Audii-Dudii
Upon reflection, when you wrote that you are planning to use an 18x8.5 front wheel, you were referring to applying the Street Class +/-1" diameter allowance to the option code XRR wheels, correct? If so, then ignore my comments above about the rarity of used 18x10 Champion wheels, as the most common 18" size I found when I was looking was 18x11.5, which is just fine for you, but much too wide for me.
I've been looking for a few weeks... and I haven't found any 18x8.5 & 18x11.5 Champions. Lots in those widths at 19" but they seem scarce in 18" diameters!
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Originally Posted by Mport68
I've been looking for a few weeks... and I haven't found any 18x8.5 & 18x11.5 Champions. Lots in those widths at 19" but they seem scarce in 18" diameters!
If any of the many feelers I have out there turn up anything in your size, I'll be happy to send them your way.
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Originally Posted by Mport68
I've been looking for a few weeks... and I haven't found any 18x8.5 & 18x11.5 Champions. Lots in those widths at 19" but they seem scarce in 18" diameters!
I've been keeping my eyes open for the same sizes in offsets that would be acceptable on a 997 C2S. Agreed - not easy to find.
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Have some Forgestars made, about $1400 or so depending on style/options but in your custom size/offest with about a 6 week lead time. I like mine, no affiliation.
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Thanks for the tip, I'll check them out.
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Originally Posted by abqautoxer
Have some Forgestars made, about $1400 or so depending on style/options but in your custom size/offest with about a 6 week lead time. I like mine, no affiliation.
Are you suggesting a custom made wheel at ~$1400 each? I looked at the Forgestars website... they don't seem to offer any 11.5" widths.

OZ makes a fairly light, inexpensive wheel in 18x8.5 & 18x11 but again no 11.5 width.
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Originally Posted by Mport68
Are you suggesting a custom made wheel at ~$1400 each? I looked at the Forgestars website... they don't seem to offer any 11.5" widths.

OZ makes a fairly light, inexpensive wheel in 18x8.5 & 18x11 but again no 11.5 width.
That price looks like for a set.

:goes back into 17" hiding:
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Originally Posted by burglar
That price looks like for a set.

:goes back into 17" hiding:
I saw a post on another forum and believe that you are correct, ~$1400 a set. However, maybe I'm missing something but they don't sem to make a 11.5 inch width.
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Originally Posted by Mport68
Not for the 997... The stock wheels are 19x8 & 19x11.
The base 997 came with 18" wheels. At least in the early 997 years. You had to pay to get the 19" lobsters that came on my car. Maybe later on, they changed that? Anyway, I think the base (non-S) version can theoretically run with 17" wheels next season. At least in my very limited (and hence possibly erroneous) understanding of the rules.

I say theoretically run with 17" wheels because I don't actually know if it would be possible to bolt 17" wheels on a 997. Clearing the brake calipers might be a problem--especially with the larger S calipers. I looked at my calipers on my non-S and *think* I could shoehorn a set on there. Not that I'm going to try.

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Originally Posted by Rotmilky
The base 997 came with 18" wheels. At least in the early 997 years. You had to pay to get the 19" lobsters that came on my car. Maybe later on, they changed that? Anyway, I think the base (non-S) version can theoretically run with 17" wheels next season. At least in my very limited (and hence possibly erroneous) understanding of the rules.

I say theoretically run with 17" wheels because I don't actually know if it would be possible to bolt 17" wheels on a 997. Clearing the brake calipers might be a problem--especially with the larger S calipers. I looked at my calipers on my non-S and *think* I could shoehorn a set on there. Not that I'm going to try.
The base 997 did indeed come with 18" wheels... However, the 997 C2S did not, making only +/- 1 inch from the stock 19" diameter SCCA legal.

My dilemma is I want to run the optional 8.5" width on the front, meaning I also have to run the 11.5" width at the rear, and that width in a 18" diameter is hard to find...


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