A Photo Is Worth A Thousand Words!
07-02-2007 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kabel_Boxster
Wow, Buzz. Thanks for the threats.
If you still feel that way after my last PM, like I said sorry I bothered to help clear things up. I'm not hiding, just didn't think the rest needed to be posted out in the open.
If you still feel that way after my last PM, like I said sorry I bothered to help clear things up. I'm not hiding, just didn't think the rest needed to be posted out in the open.
Yes, you are hiding.....and so are your friends and probably the officials.
One step closer.....Your name is Kevin. How do you think this cleared things up...and for who?
Kevin= What I heard:
• one of the drivers in your car were off course every run...
• questioned a red flag (that picture)
• practically ran over the starter
• and that you left before fulfilling your work assignment (which DQ-ed all of your runs anyway)
I do not know how much your autocross experience you have, but from what I heard many were not too happy with the way you presented yourself at that event.
Which driver, Kevin? Your damned right I questioned the course worker/official after that idiot RAN ME OFF COURSE by spinning toward me. I was off track. If I had stayed on track there would have been a collision. Nobody yelled at anyone. My passenger asked why we were red flagged. Nobody would tell us, so, idiot boy, I got a re-run for that Tell your little friends to get it straight.
Practically ran over the starter? HAHAHAHAHA! You are such a total *******.
Ask the starter, fool!
Yep, I left early... so did my son and the rest of the family. As I told you I got a call to come home...... Do you want to know the details of that too, so you and your F-buddy's can make fun of it? My daughter had a miscarriage. Satisfied?
Now, your PM's have become apologetic... "I was only trying to help" You call this help? I'll be at the next race in Deland.... and I'll be looking for you.
Yes, you are hiding..... you're a little snake in the grass. We're going to have a little talk, and you're going to tell me who is broadcasting all this crap. I want to know the official's names that you talked to. Be a man, you weasel....Which official was it that announced over the PA system to "Go ask Buzz....He knows everything!"
Yeah, I was pissed off when I got there. 8:30am call for Tech Inspection.....there was one official, the guy you say I ran over doing tech inspection for a double line of cars that must have been a quarter mile long.
First runs weren't until after 11am. The entire event was so screwed up it was hard to believe.... Whoever threw that red flag surely doesn't know what's going on. When you red flag someone, you hold the flag in front of the driver with it held open. Well, as you can see in your own picture....some guy held the red flag, but never opened it. What the hell is that?
If you noticed the track layout, they had two cars running on the track at the same time. The track crossed itself, just begging for a collision in that intersection "cross". Totally unsafe.... See next message.
07-02-2007 | 03:30 PM
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Kevin=
"Whoa Buzzz, take it easy. Like I said I was not there , and unless you and I have met at one of the Citrus region PCA or an MSCC autocross event we have probably never met.
Then why are you sticking your nose into my business on a public forum? You don't even know me.... hearsay. You're in trouble, Kevin. Big trouble.
I noticed your post here after reading some of my friends comments about the event, they were comments about the day in general along with some pictures (http://www.soma07.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2181) and when I came upon your post and saw your amazing cone pic I made the connection. Now I am sure you know how rumors can get started and blown way out of proportion on these forums so as a fellow renlister and autocrosser decided I would try the gentlemanly thing and find out your side of the story. I thought you would appreciate it, not jump down my throat.
Where were you trying to get my side of the story? All you did was make accusations which were not true. Yeah, I know how rumors get started. They get started by people like you who repeat things you've "heard", not seen. If you're going to accuse me of something, do it like a man.... make your posts public, as I am. That will h elp clear up the picture for anyone else reading this thread. I notice you edited out an inflammatory statement.... that's ok, I have the entire thread saved....and I think I'll print it out and you can explain it to the officials.
Why was I off track so much? Because I am not an autocross racer. I hate it. I'm much more used to high speed road courses, like Daytona....I can't brake unless I heel toe downshift. Running around that dinky course in second gear all day made me laugh. I felt like I was in a go kart track. The track prep was horrible... Do you call piles of sand in the corners a good track? And, who is that guy that looks like Harry Potter? The guy with the round glasses. That guy jumped all over me about where my car was while we were putting the numbers on. "I've told you every time you come over here NOT to park in that spot." WTF? I've never seen this guy in my life. And that's exactly what I told him. He just plain had the wrong guy and went off on me. I'll be there next time... I'm not going to race though. It occurred to me that I'm out there on a go kart track in a $100k Porsche, burning the tires off... and beating it to death.
I guess you wouln't know much about that with that little scooter your driving.
That course layout nearly cost me my car. And who would have paid for that?
ME! Who do you have your car insurance with? Do they know you are racing in a timed event? I guess not.....if they knew that they'd drop your insurance. That would be a shame!
How much racing have you done, Kevin?. Is it all on those little go kart tracks?
If I put you in my car and took you around Daytona intl, including the infield course you'd be making mud in your pants and begging me to stop. HOw about a formula car? Ever done that? I have..... very high speeds and no problems. You know, formula cars have no synchronizers.... you have to do what is called a "heel toe double clutch down shift". I'd love to see you try that! You're no racer. You're just driving around in your little roller skate, knocking over cones like you were in a pinball game. So, you get your jollies doing that, and I'll go back to racing road courses. Why don't you come to VIR with me? No, never mind.... I don't want crap on my seat. You wouldn't be able to handle it... ..
I know the starter in question, and yes he did say you later apologized. No-one that I heard from new you were leaving due to a family emergency, I hope it turned out not to be anything too serious. I think I know the course worker in that photo, he was surprised to be getting yelled at after red flagging the car, most people are Ok with a red flag.
Then tell the truth the first time, BOY! I touched his knee with my rear fender and he went dramatic and yelled "You ran over me!" That's just a damned lie!
He even admitted it later and said I only touched his knee. But, the damage was done. Everyone heard him say that, so now I have the reputation of running over people. Tell your friend the course worker that he needs to learn to throw a red flag. A wrapped flag on a pole is NOT a red flag! I stopped out of courtesy to see what was going on.. Look at your picture. Do you see a red flag?
So, get your crap straight..... Don't worry, I'm not going to beat your ***, even though you deserve it. YOU are going to explain to the officials that you did this, and you're going to tell me which one of them said what. Don't be a *****..... grow up you little worm!
I liked Kelly's courses too, seemed like he was not coming out to Deland for a while there though. No one else seems to want to step up to the plate and offer to design the courses so Terry ends up doing it nearly every month just a few day before hand. And Turns out Terry (the course designer) didn't like that course much either.
Kelly's about fed up with it too. Did you also hear when they put him on the starting line just left him there with that 2 stroke engine about to sieze. He finally thew his hands in the air and shut it off. That's the kind of incompetence I'm talking about. The officials were totally uncoordinated....small town stuff. I'd rather run with Lambos, Ferrari's and other Porsches.... and I love to dust those Z06's and M3's..... But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? Don't forget, I'll be looking for you at the next Deland race. Don't wimp out on me...... man or mouse? Back up your accusations with facts. Or just shut the hell up! Why don't you tell your butt buddies to speak up instead of hiding too?
Buzz, I meant no ill intent towards you, I have this bad habit of trying to make everybody happy, I probably should have never bothered to stick my nose it this but I did... sorry I even bothered.
Making everybody happy? Is this what you call making everyone happy?
You're right ..... you shouldn't h ave stuck your nose in my business. My wife is an attorney..... libel and slander suits are a piece of cake. Would you like me to have you served? The best thing for you is to sit down and shut up! And you can tell that to all of your little course worker buddies, and the officials. I'm sick of trying to deal with you "wanna be's"..... Next time at Deland, BE THERE!
We're damned sure going to get this straight. So, there it is.... that's my final word on the matter. You don't have to like it.... you just have to own up to it if you have the *****.
One other thing you need to tell your buddies and the officials. I have the worst case of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome my doctor has ever seen. That's what happens when you see too much violent death. No, you don't know me at all.
You really should be ashamed of yourself!
"Whoa Buzzz, take it easy. Like I said I was not there , and unless you and I have met at one of the Citrus region PCA or an MSCC autocross event we have probably never met.
Then why are you sticking your nose into my business on a public forum? You don't even know me.... hearsay. You're in trouble, Kevin. Big trouble.
I noticed your post here after reading some of my friends comments about the event, they were comments about the day in general along with some pictures (http://www.soma07.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=2181) and when I came upon your post and saw your amazing cone pic I made the connection. Now I am sure you know how rumors can get started and blown way out of proportion on these forums so as a fellow renlister and autocrosser decided I would try the gentlemanly thing and find out your side of the story. I thought you would appreciate it, not jump down my throat.
Where were you trying to get my side of the story? All you did was make accusations which were not true. Yeah, I know how rumors get started. They get started by people like you who repeat things you've "heard", not seen. If you're going to accuse me of something, do it like a man.... make your posts public, as I am. That will h elp clear up the picture for anyone else reading this thread. I notice you edited out an inflammatory statement.... that's ok, I have the entire thread saved....and I think I'll print it out and you can explain it to the officials.
Why was I off track so much? Because I am not an autocross racer. I hate it. I'm much more used to high speed road courses, like Daytona....I can't brake unless I heel toe downshift. Running around that dinky course in second gear all day made me laugh. I felt like I was in a go kart track. The track prep was horrible... Do you call piles of sand in the corners a good track? And, who is that guy that looks like Harry Potter? The guy with the round glasses. That guy jumped all over me about where my car was while we were putting the numbers on. "I've told you every time you come over here NOT to park in that spot." WTF? I've never seen this guy in my life. And that's exactly what I told him. He just plain had the wrong guy and went off on me. I'll be there next time... I'm not going to race though. It occurred to me that I'm out there on a go kart track in a $100k Porsche, burning the tires off... and beating it to death.
I guess you wouln't know much about that with that little scooter your driving.
That course layout nearly cost me my car. And who would have paid for that?
ME! Who do you have your car insurance with? Do they know you are racing in a timed event? I guess not.....if they knew that they'd drop your insurance. That would be a shame!
How much racing have you done, Kevin?. Is it all on those little go kart tracks?
If I put you in my car and took you around Daytona intl, including the infield course you'd be making mud in your pants and begging me to stop. HOw about a formula car? Ever done that? I have..... very high speeds and no problems. You know, formula cars have no synchronizers.... you have to do what is called a "heel toe double clutch down shift". I'd love to see you try that! You're no racer. You're just driving around in your little roller skate, knocking over cones like you were in a pinball game. So, you get your jollies doing that, and I'll go back to racing road courses. Why don't you come to VIR with me? No, never mind.... I don't want crap on my seat. You wouldn't be able to handle it... ..
I know the starter in question, and yes he did say you later apologized. No-one that I heard from new you were leaving due to a family emergency, I hope it turned out not to be anything too serious. I think I know the course worker in that photo, he was surprised to be getting yelled at after red flagging the car, most people are Ok with a red flag.
Then tell the truth the first time, BOY! I touched his knee with my rear fender and he went dramatic and yelled "You ran over me!" That's just a damned lie!
He even admitted it later and said I only touched his knee. But, the damage was done. Everyone heard him say that, so now I have the reputation of running over people. Tell your friend the course worker that he needs to learn to throw a red flag. A wrapped flag on a pole is NOT a red flag! I stopped out of courtesy to see what was going on.. Look at your picture. Do you see a red flag?
So, get your crap straight..... Don't worry, I'm not going to beat your ***, even though you deserve it. YOU are going to explain to the officials that you did this, and you're going to tell me which one of them said what. Don't be a *****..... grow up you little worm!
I liked Kelly's courses too, seemed like he was not coming out to Deland for a while there though. No one else seems to want to step up to the plate and offer to design the courses so Terry ends up doing it nearly every month just a few day before hand. And Turns out Terry (the course designer) didn't like that course much either.
Kelly's about fed up with it too. Did you also hear when they put him on the starting line just left him there with that 2 stroke engine about to sieze. He finally thew his hands in the air and shut it off. That's the kind of incompetence I'm talking about. The officials were totally uncoordinated....small town stuff. I'd rather run with Lambos, Ferrari's and other Porsches.... and I love to dust those Z06's and M3's..... But you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? Don't forget, I'll be looking for you at the next Deland race. Don't wimp out on me...... man or mouse? Back up your accusations with facts. Or just shut the hell up! Why don't you tell your butt buddies to speak up instead of hiding too?
Buzz, I meant no ill intent towards you, I have this bad habit of trying to make everybody happy, I probably should have never bothered to stick my nose it this but I did... sorry I even bothered.
Making everybody happy? Is this what you call making everyone happy?
You're right ..... you shouldn't h ave stuck your nose in my business. My wife is an attorney..... libel and slander suits are a piece of cake. Would you like me to have you served? The best thing for you is to sit down and shut up! And you can tell that to all of your little course worker buddies, and the officials. I'm sick of trying to deal with you "wanna be's"..... Next time at Deland, BE THERE!
We're damned sure going to get this straight. So, there it is.... that's my final word on the matter. You don't have to like it.... you just have to own up to it if you have the *****.
One other thing you need to tell your buddies and the officials. I have the worst case of Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome my doctor has ever seen. That's what happens when you see too much violent death. No, you don't know me at all.
You really should be ashamed of yourself!
07-02-2007 | 03:43 PM
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ya know, I chose to keep this off the forum with PM's, honestly I just wanted to make sure you were not misrepresented and you took this to a whole different place.
And I do this with great reservation, my source:
http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums...pic=4186&st=15
I do not appreciate your name calling or your threats. I will no longer take your abuse. Wow, am I sorry...
And I do this with great reservation, my source:
http://www.autocrossforum.com/forums...pic=4186&st=15
I do not appreciate your name calling or your threats. I will no longer take your abuse. Wow, am I sorry...
Last edited by kabel_Boxster; 07-02-2007 at 04:02 PM.
07-02-2007 | 09:00 PM
#19
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Hey Buzz,
You
Are
A
****ing
Moron.
By the way - If I am banned for this post, I would suggest that it would only be fair to ban Buzz911S also. I would think that it's ethically worse that he posted a private message in the public and spent way more effort into insults than I have here.
You
Are
A
****ing
Moron.
By the way - If I am banned for this post, I would suggest that it would only be fair to ban Buzz911S also. I would think that it's ethically worse that he posted a private message in the public and spent way more effort into insults than I have here.
07-02-2007 | 09:22 PM
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Ethics my ***! I could not care less about being banned from this place. Rejoice, I shall no longer return! I have never seen such dramatics in my life. What a bunch of babies.
No, I'm not a ****ing moron. You just don't know everything that happened that day. Were you in my head you dimwit *******? **** y ou and all of your buddies and the entire sport of auto cross. It's nothing but a go kart track. I have much better things to do....
Funny these people would allow you to create a new account so you could get a false name banned and keep your own account. That's how you ******** work. You're nothing but a troll.... and not a real good one at that. Go **** up a rope!
No, I'm not a ****ing moron. You just don't know everything that happened that day. Were you in my head you dimwit *******? **** y ou and all of your buddies and the entire sport of auto cross. It's nothing but a go kart track. I have much better things to do....
Funny these people would allow you to create a new account so you could get a false name banned and keep your own account. That's how you ******** work. You're nothing but a troll.... and not a real good one at that. Go **** up a rope!
