How many runs do you get?
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How many runs do you get?
I want to know how many runs people get at their local autocrosses. In West Texas, we get 9 runs most of the time. Sometimes we have to limit it to 6 for the amount of people. I've heard of some places only giving 3 runs.
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Out here in Southern VA, normally we're getting 4 runs with most clubs.
Now, NASA goes by time for their heats and that means upwards of 15-19 runs on the smaller courses, at least 10 on others.
I am fine with 3 to 5 runs myself...
Now, NASA goes by time for their heats and that means upwards of 15-19 runs on the smaller courses, at least 10 on others.
I am fine with 3 to 5 runs myself...
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Last month we squeezed in 2 sets of 5 practice and 1 set of 4 for time (1 warmup, 3 timed), so 14 total. All day affair, people start showing up at 6 am, runs start at 9 sharp, runs end at 4:30 or 5:00. Cleanup and socializing until 7:00.
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From: Phoenix, Az
In Arizona.
SCCA = 3 runs. May 1 or 2 more at the end of the day
PCA Az = usally 3 sets of 3 timed laps with 1 warm up lap. We run the autocross more like mini time trial. Course is on parking lot at tradtional autocross speeds and autocross features. However we run one 7/8 'warm up" lap and then 3 flying laps. Then the car pulls off track and parks it. We most after all cars in group run their laps we rotate, work corners and such. If things go quickly we try to get 3 rotations for all the driver whichs means 9 timed laps. Even then best times are often in the last rotation. Nice thing about this is the warm up lap gives you a "free shot" at finding the course, trying lines and experimenting with corner speeds. Then you can put in one good "bank" lap and then try for a couple flyers. Then you can do that all 2-3 more times allowing for set-up tweaks and to try to balacne the changing course conditions as the day wears on.
I have done a few SCCA autocrosses, but never found the 3 laps to be enough track time for the effort. Even PCA lap time is short comapared to 1 20 min session a proper track day.
SCCA = 3 runs. May 1 or 2 more at the end of the day
PCA Az = usally 3 sets of 3 timed laps with 1 warm up lap. We run the autocross more like mini time trial. Course is on parking lot at tradtional autocross speeds and autocross features. However we run one 7/8 'warm up" lap and then 3 flying laps. Then the car pulls off track and parks it. We most after all cars in group run their laps we rotate, work corners and such. If things go quickly we try to get 3 rotations for all the driver whichs means 9 timed laps. Even then best times are often in the last rotation. Nice thing about this is the warm up lap gives you a "free shot" at finding the course, trying lines and experimenting with corner speeds. Then you can put in one good "bank" lap and then try for a couple flyers. Then you can do that all 2-3 more times allowing for set-up tweaks and to try to balacne the changing course conditions as the day wears on.
I have done a few SCCA autocrosses, but never found the 3 laps to be enough track time for the effort. Even PCA lap time is short comapared to 1 20 min session a proper track day.
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How many runs you get is determined by so many factors:
1: Amount of cars participating,
2: How organised the club is
3: How long the course is
4: How long everyone is there for
Here in PCA-CWR our runs have varied anywhere between a minimum of 7, to a maximum of 12 runs per driver, all timed. As the organiser for our event, I would never ever stand for less than 6 runs in a day. At that point I would rather limit the turnout of cars to a maximum of 40 to ensure that we get more runs.
1: Amount of cars participating,
2: How organised the club is
3: How long the course is
4: How long everyone is there for
Here in PCA-CWR our runs have varied anywhere between a minimum of 7, to a maximum of 12 runs per driver, all timed. As the organiser for our event, I would never ever stand for less than 6 runs in a day. At that point I would rather limit the turnout of cars to a maximum of 40 to ensure that we get more runs.
