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"Cables, cats, pianos and rooms all need to relax in order to be at their best. Constant attention to physical and environmental conditions, frequent use and the degaussing of a system help it achieve and maintain a relaxed state."
"The first day the sound is usually bad and it is very stressful. The last day sounds great. Mechanical stress in speaker cables, speaker cabinets, even the walls of the room, must be relaxed in order for the system to sound its best"
Seriously, at least invoke the name of a dead guy, like Coulomb, Farraday, Maxwell, Kirchoff, Ohm ... maybe even use a number or two.
Delusional self hypnosis, delusions of technical grandure...no other explanation comes to mind.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, unless you are marketing to people with even less ... PT Barnum would be proud.
"The first day the sound is usually bad and it is very stressful. The last day sounds great. Mechanical stress in speaker cables, speaker cabinets, even the walls of the room, must be relaxed in order for the system to sound its best"
Seriously, at least invoke the name of a dead guy, like Coulomb, Farraday, Maxwell, Kirchoff, Ohm ... maybe even use a number or two.
Delusional self hypnosis, delusions of technical grandure...no other explanation comes to mind.
A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, unless you are marketing to people with even less ... PT Barnum would be proud.
His twin brother designed the Nike Zeus missile communication system which lead to the delay free satellite communication we now all enjoy. Between the two of them they held over 20 major patents with Bell Labs on what are now commonly used items.
I know My father-in-law published a paper on this subject and discussed this several times with me with his brother but it is not my field so I don't recall specifics. Unfortunately they both passed two years ago. I have a copy of his article but it is in with his possessions we are currently moving my mother-in-law in to our home so it is in one of a hundred boxes.
It is not the definitive answer you were looking for and is just my word but if you knew the man and listened to his explanation and observed the comparison he showed me on an oscilloscope, which was far more technical than George Cardas I think you too would agree.
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I am really trying to avoid going down this rabbit hole and wasting any of my time, but I guess I am going to have to reserve some quiet time, grab some scrap paper, a pencil and my trusty slide rule and think about some way I could see any of this being real rather than perceived.
I know in the end I will regret it.
I know in the end I will regret it.
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Not worth the effort you are already convinced it is all smoke and mirrors.
When I find the paper i will scan it for you but we are still a few months out on the move.
When I find the paper i will scan it for you but we are still a few months out on the move.
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I am really trying to avoid going down this rabbit hole and wasting any of my time, but I guess I am going to have to reserve some quiet time, grab some scrap paper, a pencil and my trusty slide rule and think about some way I could see any of this being real rather than perceived.
I know in the end I will regret it.
I know in the end I will regret it.
If it doesn't work for you, fine. Don't bother with it.
Cobalt, interesting Cardas post. Thanks.
(Yes, I have one Cardas cable in my system - from the CD to the D/A converter.)
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If it can be perceived or observed, it should be measurable, or at least be subject to experimentation and validation.
Triboelectric effects, dielectric absorption, transmission line effects, skin effects, field cancelation..all valid in physics, but in audio and powet cables I am a bit "skeptical" with regards to aging and burn in.
A double blind A-B test is always an issue in these areas, and always discounted as flawed by design.
Just because someone says they can hear a difference does not validate it. Psychoaccoustics often trumps physics.
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There should exist more than one paper to explain these effects and how a battery on a cable actually works....I am just curious if anyone had links or references.
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My reality is based in physics and more specifically electronics.
If it can be perceived or observed, it should be measurable, or at least be subject to experimentation and validation.
Triboelectric effects, dielectric absorption, transmission line effects, skin effects, field cancelation..all valid in physics, but in audio and powet cables I am a bit "skeptical" with regards to aging and burn in.
A double blind A-B test is always an issue in these areas, and always discounted as flawed by design.
Just because someone says they can hear a difference does not validate it. Psychoaccoustics often trumps physics.
If it can be perceived or observed, it should be measurable, or at least be subject to experimentation and validation.
Triboelectric effects, dielectric absorption, transmission line effects, skin effects, field cancelation..all valid in physics, but in audio and powet cables I am a bit "skeptical" with regards to aging and burn in.
A double blind A-B test is always an issue in these areas, and always discounted as flawed by design.
Just because someone says they can hear a difference does not validate it. Psychoaccoustics often trumps physics.
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If there is a noticeable/apparent change in the cable pre/post, then it should be measurable via lab instrumentation.
Again, a double blind A-B test would be a simple observational experiment, but I know those are not acceptable due to the flaws in any A-B switch.
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It's due to Molecule compaction, different materials will have different ratios and impact time, annealed copper for eg or tinned copper or solid silver wire. Voltage drive (amt) will have an effect over the time constant , reversing direction will also have an altering effect .
Doubt it will show in any RLC measurement, i have never done an before and after test, there maybe some phase rotation, Hmmmm..
Missing Pease ...?
Doubt it will show in any RLC measurement, i have never done an before and after test, there maybe some phase rotation, Hmmmm..
Missing Pease ...?
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Audioquest has quite a bit on their site, as does Shunyata. It's been awhile since I've looked at Shunyatas site, but I believe they have graphs if not actual screen shots of testing gear results which is what you may be looking for.
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My problem is I prefer the sound pre-burn in. So every 5-6 hours I have to shell out another $10,000 for new cables.
This is getting really expensive.
This is getting really expensive.
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It's due to Molecule compaction, different materials will have different ratios and impact time, annealed copper for eg or tinned copper or solid silver wire. Voltage drive (amt) will have an effect over the time constant , reversing direction will also have an altering effect .
Doubt it will show in any RLC measurement, i have never done an before and after test, there maybe some phase rotation, Hmmmm..
Doubt it will show in any RLC measurement, i have never done an before and after test, there maybe some phase rotation, Hmmmm..
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