Is there another Porsche under $80K that you would consider owning?
01-29-2017, 10:28 PM
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My list in no particular order...
991 CS or C4S (GT smooth, larger size, and modern luxury)
997 GTS (pure 911 driving, n/a, hyd steer, smaller body than 991)
997 TT (power/speed and tunability)
981 Cayman GTS (simple balanced handling and useable power/speed on street)
All in coupe since im not a vert guy but same applies to verts
I think all of these cars have merit in there own right.
991 CS or C4S (GT smooth, larger size, and modern luxury)
997 GTS (pure 911 driving, n/a, hyd steer, smaller body than 991)
997 TT (power/speed and tunability)
981 Cayman GTS (simple balanced handling and useable power/speed on street)
All in coupe since im not a vert guy but same applies to verts
I think all of these cars have merit in there own right.
01-29-2017, 11:41 PM
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Me personally, I compared 997GT3 for some additional dollars. Missing backseat was the deal breaker here.
Also early model 991s with tons of options. But the new ones are too big for my taste.
Late model Cayman S or maybe R. Same thing about missing backseat.
I ended up with the Turbo and bought Fidelity platinum warranty for piece of mind and miles so I wouldn't hesitate to drive it as desired.
Also early model 991s with tons of options. But the new ones are too big for my taste.
Late model Cayman S or maybe R. Same thing about missing backseat.
I ended up with the Turbo and bought Fidelity platinum warranty for piece of mind and miles so I wouldn't hesitate to drive it as desired.
01-30-2017, 12:38 AM
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As someone who ended up with a 997tt by being somewhat pragmatic, it's actually a long list:
993, 964 na models, or turbo models, if the market comes down
996 turbo (with engine mods and 2wd conversion)
930 if the market comes down
951 (944 turbo) with mods -- probably not, the geek in me loves the car, but I could not put up with random friends of mine making stupid statements about me trading down
914 with an ls engine
gt4 if it comes down, or honestly a modified cayman. As much as I love convertibles, I don't see myself in a boxster, even as a beater, unless I get a lift that would make dropping the engine a reasonable DIY. boxster would need significant engine mods.
996 gt3
used 4wd panamera to replace the tahoe car (this is actually pretty likely -- I can't wait to trade BMW service for Porsche service for that vehicle, even if it costs me way more $$)
993, 964 na models, or turbo models, if the market comes down
996 turbo (with engine mods and 2wd conversion)
930 if the market comes down
951 (944 turbo) with mods -- probably not, the geek in me loves the car, but I could not put up with random friends of mine making stupid statements about me trading down
914 with an ls engine
gt4 if it comes down, or honestly a modified cayman. As much as I love convertibles, I don't see myself in a boxster, even as a beater, unless I get a lift that would make dropping the engine a reasonable DIY. boxster would need significant engine mods.
996 gt3
used 4wd panamera to replace the tahoe car (this is actually pretty likely -- I can't wait to trade BMW service for Porsche service for that vehicle, even if it costs me way more $$)
01-30-2017, 08:15 AM
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Add nice 964 to my short list
01-31-2017, 12:05 PM
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Love this question because I have owned a lot of the cars on the wish lists: Stock and modded 930's, stock and modded 996TT's, and a stock then modded 996GT2 I can say that whatever you buy you will ultimately move on to something else.
While I like my 997TT a lot, it is more luxurious than any of the others I have owned and, therefore, a little less dramatic and exciting. It makes a perfect second car if I need it and the a/c works quite well. But of all the Porsche's I have owned the one I like the most was my modded 930. Wasn't a crazy build with larger turbo, Andial fuel enrichment, larger intercooler and exhaust but it sounded fantastic and felt very special when I drove it. Having back seats for my little kids was a definite must which is why I have my 997TT now. But to each their own.
While I like my 997TT a lot, it is more luxurious than any of the others I have owned and, therefore, a little less dramatic and exciting. It makes a perfect second car if I need it and the a/c works quite well. But of all the Porsche's I have owned the one I like the most was my modded 930. Wasn't a crazy build with larger turbo, Andial fuel enrichment, larger intercooler and exhaust but it sounded fantastic and felt very special when I drove it. Having back seats for my little kids was a definite must which is why I have my 997TT now. But to each their own.
02-01-2017, 10:00 AM
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If performance is the most important criteria and you aren't modding - the 997.2 Turbo S PDK with PCCBs is hands down the best car at $80k. Even bone stock it will embarrass most any exotic at the drag strip/airstrip from a dig. At the track it isn't the best car granted because it pushes (understeers) pretty badly, but a good alignment and fixing tire pressure helps a lot to get the car to rotate and can be a beast at the track.
03-05-2018, 12:00 AM
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This is not a technical question or meant to start an argument or debate. This is one Rennlister (and person who has attention deficit disorder when it comes to sports cars) that is just curious as to what other similarly situated Rennlisters think.
If you could only own 1 Porsche, new or used, under $80K in today's USD, other than your 997 Turbo, what would it be?
I chose $80K rather unscientifically... that seems to be about the range where a person could get a well optioned 997.1 Turbo, or perhaps stretch into a lower optioned, higher mileage 997.2 Turbo these days. I know some of you have cars valued above that figure, and several of us have cars valued below it, but that seems about right. Again, not looking to turn this into a debate over the used car value of the 997TT, whether it is appreciating or depreciating, or .1 vs. .2.
I've driven a host of Porsches over the past year. All kinds of models, transmission types, wide body vs. narrow body, NA vs. Turbo, etc. and I believe I'm finally figuring out what I really like. To me, I think the perfect Porsche within this price range is the 997.2 GTS in manual. Rear wheel drive, NA, widebody, adequately powered, and very hard to find. Don't get me wrong, I love my 997.1Turbo, tiptronic and all. Everytime I get a wandering eye for other cars (which is often), I go take my car out and put it through its paces, and think how lucky I am to own such an awesome machine. It looks great, is the best overall performing car I've ever driven, and is a great blend between modern and classic. If I keep this car for the next 10 years, that won't be a bad thing. However, I think I'd trade it for the right car, and the GTS is the one. The thing is, it seems a lot of other Porsche enthusiasts also know that, which is why those cars are difficult to find.
So anyway, again, this is just a curiosity thread, not an argument. I'd be interested to see what others think.
If you could only own 1 Porsche, new or used, under $80K in today's USD, other than your 997 Turbo, what would it be?
I chose $80K rather unscientifically... that seems to be about the range where a person could get a well optioned 997.1 Turbo, or perhaps stretch into a lower optioned, higher mileage 997.2 Turbo these days. I know some of you have cars valued above that figure, and several of us have cars valued below it, but that seems about right. Again, not looking to turn this into a debate over the used car value of the 997TT, whether it is appreciating or depreciating, or .1 vs. .2.
I've driven a host of Porsches over the past year. All kinds of models, transmission types, wide body vs. narrow body, NA vs. Turbo, etc. and I believe I'm finally figuring out what I really like. To me, I think the perfect Porsche within this price range is the 997.2 GTS in manual. Rear wheel drive, NA, widebody, adequately powered, and very hard to find. Don't get me wrong, I love my 997.1Turbo, tiptronic and all. Everytime I get a wandering eye for other cars (which is often), I go take my car out and put it through its paces, and think how lucky I am to own such an awesome machine. It looks great, is the best overall performing car I've ever driven, and is a great blend between modern and classic. If I keep this car for the next 10 years, that won't be a bad thing. However, I think I'd trade it for the right car, and the GTS is the one. The thing is, it seems a lot of other Porsche enthusiasts also know that, which is why those cars are difficult to find.
So anyway, again, this is just a curiosity thread, not an argument. I'd be interested to see what others think.
Sold my 997.1 Turbo, miss it a bit, but would not sell the GT3 to get back in a .1 turbo.
03-05-2018, 12:50 AM
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996 TTS or 996 GT3 or 1974-1976 Carrera or a long nose S
03-05-2018, 03:20 AM
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If performance is the most important criteria and you aren't modding - the 997.2 Turbo S PDK with PCCBs is hands down the best car at $80k. Even bone stock it will embarrass most any exotic at the drag strip/airstrip from a dig. At the track it isn't the best car granted because it pushes (understeers) pretty badly, but a good alignment and fixing tire pressure helps a lot to get the car to rotate and can be a beast at the track.
As for me, the 997.1tt is the only car under 80k for me since I use the back seats! If I didn't, I'd want to at least test drive a Cayman GTS. Not sure I could give up the power of the Turbo for it though.